I just checked the other Valby thread that is currently a few places up from this one and, while there is the usual rhetoric and crap from astro, I don’t see “haters.” There were some deleted posts, more than likely written by astro, but I didn’t see much else.
So when you say “haters,” you make seem as if there are a ton of people out there that hate Valby. From my perspective I don’t notice that. There’s astro and a few other chuckleheads but they are not representative of Tuohy fans or whoever else you believe that the haters are.