Bekele is the closest. He already has the male WRs for 2,000m indoors, 5,000m and 10,000m so the long stuff is easy. He can run marathons at the women's WR pace for 10,000m. For the short stuff he could train. He was able to run 11 when he was on the track. I'm sure he could have trained to take little more then half a second off if he focused on it.
I think most could go sub 11. There are countless amounts of collegiate and high schoolers who can break 11 year after year. Not an impossible feat if you're one of the fastest in the world at your event. I don't believe that...
To drive the point home, anyone running 10.5 FAT can split well under 10, close to 9.5 for 100m with a flying start.Similarly in the 200 they probably have to split 20.5 flying to threaten 21.3 from blocks. Sprinters correct me if I’m wrong.
This thread shows that even with women's distance records only a male distance runner could beat them. No sprinter could. I would bet everything is out below the 800.
Pretty tough ask. A speedy 800 runner is definitely the most likely. I'd guess anyone that could run 45.x open would have the necessary top speed to go under 10.5, provided they worked on their start. Brazier is a likely candidate, 14:00/29:01 is pretty fast though. He was quite good in cross country in high school, within 30 seconds of Grant Fisher at the Michigan state meet. I'm just not sure he could manage the training to hold that gap today. If he could stay healthy and run 70-90 mpw, then maybe. But the way he trains, I suspect he would struggle to break 30:00, much less 29:00.
I'm specifically thinking of a guy I knew who was a good but not great middle distance runner who also had a good short end speed.
I think he ran 10.9, 22.low, 48.low, 1:51, 3:45, low-14s and a low 2:20s marathon. Obviously not meeting the criteria for world records, but a pretty impressive range. I imagine someone with this profile but just perhaps a little more talented/faster might be able to do it?
A guy like Brazier could have easily run 10.49 with specific training (I would bet he could have done it at his peak without specific training). Could also scare that 10k time with specific training.
Isaiah Harris won his State 200 and Mile the same year. He might be too much of a pure 800m guy though.
Hoppel? Seb Coe? Clayton Murphy?
Yeah, Brazier at his peak could probably have done all these times. But the 100m and 10k might have been close.
I'm specifically thinking of a guy I knew who was a good but not great middle distance runner who also had a good short end speed.
I think he ran 10.9, 22.low, 48.low, 1:51, 3:45, low-14s and a low 2:20s marathon. Obviously not meeting the criteria for world records, but a pretty impressive range. I imagine someone with this profile but just perhaps a little more talented/faster might be able to do it?
To have 48 low 400 and 14 low 5k ability but only manage a 1:51/ 3:45 800/1500 is actually pretty underwhelming.
To run a 10.5 takes tremendous talent but it also requires a different type of talent to run 29:00. No amount of training will turn a sprinter into a distance runner. If a 29:00 runner could actually sprint 10.5, he could easily set WRs at the middle distances.
You have referred to male sub-11 100m men as sprinters two or three times on this thread. Male sub-11 100m men are sprinters in high school and maybe tri or quad D3 track & field meets.
There is a reason only a select number of elite 800m men are capable of task theorized by o.p. Even though I made the pool of likely men for the job, sub-1:44 800m men, maybe not.
Likely an elite 400/800 guy with a sprinting background or an elite 800m man who started off as a youth sprinter. I sense you correctly assume it would be difficult, impossible for Ingebrigten family types. You are correct. Since this thread has been up, I have looked for 800m men with my criteria: 46.0 400m and 3:47.5 1500m. Not easy to find. but I see guys who are close such as Billy Konchellah and Duane Solomon. I am sure if I could get access to 400m AND 1500m personal bests for all sub-1:44 800m men, I could find one.
The women’s WR is 10.5, and not just sub-11. 10.5 would have placed in the top 6 at the CIF state meet last year so the time is definitely that of a sprinter.
Another thing to consider is that for a 5/10 strength runner, 29:00 equates to 14:00. A guy with 10.5 is speed is obviously going to slow down at a faster rate and would need to be capable of at least 13:30 for 5000m. As the distance is reduced, the times will become more absurd and impossible for the middle distances.
No and it’s not even that close. People mention Coe. Not even close over 100/200. I watched Coe run a 200 a few weeks before his 800 wr. My roommate who couldn’t run the women’s wr in the 100 or 200 absolutely smoked him and he lost. Coe was last. 22.3 at fastest from memory. Obviously no where near 11.0 for 100. I don’t think anyone who could break 10.49 could run the women’s 1500 wr. Most wouldn’t get close to the 800.
Joseph Deng of Australia would be a good candidate for this. 800m guru Justin Rinaldi has claimed Deng could run 44 and he has PBs of 1:43 and 3:43 (within 6 months of each other) as well as an 400 PB of 47.25 from 2016 when he was 18(?). He's also ran 10:50 for the tan which is the 38th fastest time on that course (I hope some Aussie's can back me up that that is impressive!)
Bekele is the closest. He already has the male WRs for 2,000m indoors, 5,000m and 10,000m so the long stuff is easy. He can run marathons at the women's WR pace for 10,000m. For the short stuff he could train. He was able to run 11 when he was on the track. I'm sure he could of trained to take little more then half a second off if he focused on it.
Bekeke couldn't but ElGuerrouj could.
Remember NO WOMAN has run 10.5. Flojo had a hurricane at her back that day.
I will point out again that there is already a runner that has verifiably run faster than the Woman's 100m AND 1500m WR. Brandon Johnson has PBs of 100m- 10.41 & 1500m- 3:45. So it's certainly possible for a sub 10.5 male to run faster than the Womens WR for 1500m because it's already been done. All the way up to 10k? Nope.