Armstronglivs didn't say that. Still practising your lying. Armstronglivs says you never see doping even in those convicted of doping violations, like Bosse.
Who was it that wrote "you just confirmed what I said"? Were you lying? I thought we had reached a mutual conclusion with your explicit confirmation of my confirmation, raising no material objections.
If it makes you feel better, I could possibly see Bosse started doping around the timeframe of September 2022 and June 2023, after six years of sub-standard performances, injuries, surgeries, etc., and at 31, not getting any younger.
You confirmed what I said because, your waffle notwithstanding, he was caught for doping offences. That means there is a very good chance he was doping. But not to some.
Who was it that wrote "you just confirmed what I said"? Were you lying? I thought we had reached a mutual conclusion with your explicit confirmation of my confirmation, raising no material objections.
If it makes you feel better, I could possibly see Bosse started doping around the timeframe of September 2022 and June 2023, after six years of sub-standard performances, injuries, surgeries, etc., and at 31, not getting any younger.
You confirmed what I said because, your waffle notwithstanding, he was caught for doping offences. That means there is a very good chance he was doping. But not to some.
I see nothing makes you feel better.
I thought we were all on the same page as the WADA Code, which describes 11 distinct doping offenses. Does WADA explain how this alchemy of one offense likely transmutes into another?
I thought European runners didn't dope at all? Weird. Must be one bad apple...
Let's be honest. The French do take doping enforcement far more seriously than......the USA. Major sports competitions in France = TdF, which has a major crack down on doping. Police there enforce anti doping and raid the teams to find peds. In the sport competitions = NBA, NFL MLB, PGA, NCAA, USTAF all of which have no doping controls!
You know that your grand thesis rests on Russian distance times supposedly not showing a marked improvement over Soviet athlete distance times. The majority of the best Soviet distance runners were not Russian.
Russia as a nation did not exist during the Soviet Union.
As for derailing you don't understand the difference between mentioning something (Spanish doping) and you replying with a wall of text challenging me to debate it.
Coevett "accuracy" strikes again. In my "grand thesis", I did not single out Russia or Soviet athletes for comparison. The closest is that I compared the fastest post-1990 non-Africans with the fastest pre-1990 world athletes. Nothing rests "on Russian distance times" or "Soviet athlete distance times".
Some fun facts:
- Russia existed within the Soviet Union from 1922-1991
- All of the Russian/Soviet men were too slow before 1990, and all of the former Soviet and Russian men were too slow after 1990. No Russian or Soviet man was any part of my "grand thesis".
- For the women, the "Soviet" women were counted as running for RUS, UKR, and UZB, and helped determine the pre-1990 world benchmark. Some former Soviet women were faster post-1990. There were no UZB women, and only 1 UKR woman. The remaining women (about a dozen) were all RUS. There were also 2 women from BLR.
We discussed this many years ago. Lydiard had said that Russia wasn't a good place for producing runners. The snow is too thick in winter and it is very soft while the country it is far too flat. Most Russian males are alcoholics. We now know that Russian women were doping on EPO. Then there's Borzakovsky their best runner, EPO era from a dirty country? Answer that one Rek!
You confirmed what I said because, your waffle notwithstanding, he was caught for doping offences. That means there is a very good chance he was doping. But not to some.
I see nothing makes you feel better.
I thought we were all on the same page as the WADA Code, which describes 11 distinct doping offenses. Does WADA explain how this alchemy of one offense likely transmutes into another?
They don't have to. They are all doping offences. The rest is details.
You confirmed what I said because, your waffle notwithstanding, he was caught for doping offences. That means there is a very good chance he was doping. But not to some.
I see nothing makes you feel better.
I thought we were all on the same page as the WADA Code, which describes 11 distinct doping offenses. Does WADA explain how this alchemy of one offense likely transmutes into another?
I realise what you're getting at. The different categories of doping offences for you are just a little bit doped, partly doped, maybe doped, doped but not really, doped accidentally, doped possibly (but not), doped to the gills (never - what's that doing in there!), doped but not performance enhanced, "potentially" doped, "believed" doped, doped from coffee or chewing gum, and burrito doped. So much to choose from.
We discussed this many years ago. Lydiard had said that Russia wasn't a good place for producing runners. The snow is too thick in winter and it is very soft while the country it is far too flat. Most Russian males are alcoholics. We now know that Russian women were doping on EPO. Then there's Borzakovsky their best runner, EPO era from a dirty country? Answer that one Rek!
What did I say then?
Over the years I've heard lots of discussion explaining to me why I should not expect doping to work for the fastest non-African athletes in real competition. I wonder. Can Russia afford snowplows? Or indoor facilities? Or airplanes to fly their athletes to a winter camp better suited for training? Why did their women succeed on the world stage?
What is your question about Borzakovskiy? I think my answer will be the same: "all of the former Soviet and Russian men were too slow after 1990".
In any case:
- In my "grand thesis", I did not look at the 800m.
- If I had, my pre-1990 benchmark would have been 1:42.25, averaging times from Coe, Cruz, Koskei, Gray, and Cram. I would not have included Russia's best runner Borzakovskiy, whose fastest performance was 1:42.47.
- In fact, only 7 men in history have run faster than 1:42.25, and two of them were Coe and Cruz in the 1980s.
Why was Bosse's suspension reduced? Their excuses for missing tests aren't very convincing.
Good question. Maybe a reduction for not contesting it, and accepting fault? Maybe a finding of partial fault for one of the missed tests?
According to the AFLD website, the ban starts on 27-March-2024, ends on 27-March-2025. He can start training on 27-January-2025. All results from 11-June-2023 are annulled, and he has to give back an medals and prize money.
They will publish a summary of the decision later.
Since he announced his retirement in Dec. 2023, my understanding is that this ban will be tolled, and waiting for him, should he ever decide to return to competition, when he will be subject to testing.