Those are decent times but still amateur hour. Rick Lee from NJ. I think he ran like 2:40 at Boston last year or the year before. He was in his early 60s.
I know the thread title says 50+, but thought I'd share anyway. As a 19/yo I decided to enter an open 3 mile XC race to test my fitness, ended up being humbled by a dude who was 48. We came through the 2 mile mark at 10:20, at which point he came up from behind and gapped me by 10s to the finish.
The next year I managed to best him in an 8K (25:1x to 25:3x), but was still really impressed. Supposedly he was a sub 8:20 steepler in his prime as a collegiate, so it makes sense that he'd still be pretty damn fast with dedicated training at his age.
Earlier this season, my coach told us about his friend who supposedly recently ran a sub 8:50 indoor 3k as an over 50 I believe? Don't remember the exact details on that one, but it stuck in my mind because that was the same week I ran 8:50 outdoors, lol.
My goal is to run within 50% of the IAAF ratified men's World Records (WRs) as they were prior to the 12th October 2019 for distances 400m to the Half Marathon in the shoe tech that was available and...
Are any of those guys using TRT or DHEA, or anything like that?
Some might be, but guys who ran competitive times when they were younger and have kept training and racing should be able to run 75-85% without any extra help. Without knowing someone's background, I wouldn't be start saying hmmm until I see times above 90%.
UK: Age graded record holder: Fauja SINGH - 179.04 % - 38:34 -5k
Not sure how old he is? Old.
His records were never ratified as there is no proof of birth date, so his age is uncertain. It is very likely that he is much younger than his supposed age.
As a young master (40-44) I managed to hit "decent" marks, mostly in the 83-85% range, with one outlier where I got pulled to a 1500 PR in an open indoor meet, following a pack of second-tier collegiate runners and dipping just under 4:10, good for ~ 89%. I never came close to that in any other race; my second best mark was 87%. As an older master (59 in a couple of months), I would be over the moon to threaten 80%. My first "race" in ~ 15 years will be in a month and I hope to dip under 20 minutes, which is a hair under 80% according to the Howard Grubb calculator anyway.
I have been in the presence of masters greatness a few times, having seen Ed Whitlock race. I ran an indoor meet at York University winter and watched him set a new age-world record. I forget how old he was and his time, but man was he a graceful runner.
I used to race ParkRun in its earlier days, and there were some remarkable athletes who would step in occasionally. Probably the best one who fits your criterion was Jane Davies (60 years old, ran 20:02)
There is a local DC lady in her 60s that has some absurd age grades. However, since the Parkrun ceo has decided he is the Handicapper General from Harrison Bergeron, I cannot pull up her name at the moment.
you may be thinking of Cindy Conant of Kensington, MD, who breaks 90% age grade pretty regularly (e.g., in March a 1:29:50 shamrock half-marathon at age 62).
There is a local DC lady in her 60s that has some absurd age grades. However, since the Parkrun ceo has decided he is the Handicapper General from Harrison Bergeron, I cannot pull up her name at the moment.
you may be thinking of Cindy Conant of Kensington, MD, who breaks 90% age grade pretty regularly (e.g., in March a 1:29:50 shamrock half-marathon at age 62).
Try Suzanne LaBurt. I think she has a higher % than Cindy.
#1 wrote: Those are decent times but still amateur hour. Rick Lee from NJ. I think he ran like 2:40 at Boston last year or the year before. He was in his early 60s.
Rick Lee ran 2:46 last year at Boston. This year he was second in the 60-64 age group in 2:52 (looks like most of the times were just a little slower at Boston).
As Coyote Montane mentioned previously, the USATF National Masters Championships usually produce some awe inspiring performances.
For whatever reason, I have yet to do what I think I 'should' do at any of the national events in 2022-24. I managed a couple of 80% plus mile races (certified road and track) last year and previously in the 5Km and one half marathon over 80% since turning 60+, but it takes a lot of things to go just right. At nationals my target is just top half on my age division and contribute to the club's team score. (I am certainly not fast and never was, but am pretty durable)
Until this year's national races, I will do some local races and be satisfied to be healthy enough to run 50mpw and race 'better' age-graded at least than when I was about 45 years ago.
Here are results from this year 5K road championships and last year's 10K championships. Both have fairly hilly courses. I think the road mile last year had at least a dozen men and as many women running 90% or better and several American records were set that day. There was some bloke here the other month saying that the masters road championships are a 'joke' and that he'd rather run his regional races, which he claimed were more competitive. Whatever.
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I age graded over 90% at the 2018 and 2019 5K championships, which had similar levels of competition to the past couple of years. Highest both years was perennial age grade champ Nat Larson:
Maybe the Boston Marathon could set the age group qualifying times based upon age-grading. Set a lower limit of maybe 60% or 65% (I'm just totally guessing what % might result in a similar # of qualifiers are the current system). Some people have argued in the past the older athletes have a big advantage in qualifying. If there is an established age-graded percentage (i.e. 65%), then theoretically a 75-yo would not have any advantage over a 40-yo since they both need to score 65%.
Admittedly, this would be a much more complicated system than the current one but possibly more fair.