I consider Lisa Uhl's 31:18 superior to Parker Valby's 30:50.

The clock doesn't care which time you prefer. Sorry.

13:18 is more like sub 28:XX.....Legit stuff. Also these:

400- 46

800- 1:46

1500- 3:38

Probably a little slower than double tempo pace for the dudes kicking it here. EZ

I meant 31:18.

So the AR in the marathon is 2:04:58?

Well, something Koll had the benefit of, which Valby did not, was an excited stadium announcer that kept her and the crowd pumped up with the frequent,

“Lisa Koll, of Iowa State!”

I consider Vicki Huber's 8:37 superior to Katelyn Tuohy's 8:35.

I consider Jenny Barringer's 15:07 superior to Katelyn Tuohy's 15:03.

I consider Abbey D'Agostino's 4:09 superior to Katelyn Tuohy's 4:06.

Huber, Barringer, and D'Agostino did not have SuperShoes, 2 pacers, wavelights and all the other high-tech stuff that Tuohy benefited from.

In most sports, I think these sort of "barguments" are fun. Who ran faster is objective, but who ran/performed/hit/scored/passed/was better is usually fun.

All too often in running generally, though, and on these message boards specifically--these sort of arguments seem to be started to devalue the performances of young and popular female runners and rooted in misogyny. Please stop, and let us have fun things.

we see it in other sports too: LeBron vs Jordan, Carlsen vs Kasparov, etc

The only one where there's a clear answer is female chess players - Judit Polgar is by far the best female chess player of all time. She's the only female to have been ranked in the world top 10 and to have qualified for the Candidates' tournament. The track comparison would be imagining Kipyegon being fast enough (and doing well enough in the rounds) to compete in a global men's 1500m final.

Beth Harmon was the best.

Thou shall not speak ill of the Valby.

VALBYMANIA is coming. It only gets bigger and better.

Expect Great Things.

Lol I think you think you're saying something smart but I don't see any correlation here.

How much under 30 is Valby gonna go when she turns pro. I think she is the best American talent ever.

The clock doesn't care if you ride a bike or run with artificial legs. It's humans that provide the context.

I guess you need relevance in your life. Loser. I bet you cringe when you look in the mirror!

That would not be the track comparison. Male chess players do not have a massive biological advantage over female chess players.

This was Valby's FIRST 10k.

I'm confused by your nonsense here. Was anyone in the race a robot or something? Do they typically allow artificial legs or bikes in track races?

dumbest take ever!

Could be.