No one wrote a single word down about Jesus until, at the earliest three generations after.
* Atheists and Jews can say Jesus never existed or stories were exaggerated. Jews do not benefit from admitting Jesus existed.
* It wasn't until 300.A.D. or 400 A.D. until it was agreed among Christians, proper narrative regarding Jesus. Since no one wrote one word down about Jesus until, at the earliest three generations later, Christians can and do say what they want to say about the life of Jesus and his sexual practices or abstaining from sex.
* Prophet Mohammed and his followers wrote everything down. No one says Prophet Mohammed did not exist. Prophet Jesus? Fill in the blanks you want to fill in. For the record: Many of the early converts to Islam were Christians. If people in 900 A.D. and 1000 A.D. converted from Christianity to Islam, what is your excuse?
Not true. words were written within months. nice try. risk being an atheist at your own peril. The legendary Bon Scott said it best, “h^ll ain’t a bad place to be”. better hope he’s right.
As stated, I am not debating religion unless posters self-identify. There are posters on this thread who have self-identified as Christians. Before you attempt to debate, state you group. Atheists need to state family heritage. Anyone in Israel who self-identifies as agnostic or atheist has to suffer further questions, family heritage at checkpoints. If you are Jewish, just admit it.
By the way, all the brouhaha about fake news as if it is surprising that people believe conspiracies, but people have for thousands of years believed in fake gods. Civilisation and education has not even stemmed that...in fact they have become more steadfast as more knowledge of our origins come to light.
People believe dumb stuff because most are conformers, ignorant, and if not they are too lazy to bother an attempt at understanding science...and maybe it's easier to believe in religions bacause 'what have they got to lose when they die'?
By the way, all the brouhaha about fake news as if it is surprising that people believe conspiracies, but people have for thousands of years believed in fake gods. Civilisation and education has not even stemmed that...in fact they have become more steadfast as more knowledge of our origins come to light.
People believe dumb stuff because most are conformers, ignorant, and if not they are too lazy to bother an attempt at understanding science...and maybe it's easier to believe in religions bacause 'what have they got to lose when they die'?
I believe to some extent we give our ignorance the name of God. Some people see God as a stern and worldly law giver about whom we know too much. We know exactly what he thinks of fashion, food, politics and sex. And we invoke this angry being in the sky to justify a million regulations and conflicts that we find objectionable. He apparently gets upset when women wear short sleeve shirts and show the legs and when 2 men have sex with each other or when teenagers masturbate.
There is no relevance to your question. Consider me a somewhat interested observer.
Tell us your religion and I will tell you the relevance. The Christians or cultural Christians have self-identified or have not been afraid to self-identify. Are you afraid to state your truth?
There is no relevance to your question. Consider me a somewhat interested observer.
Tell us your religion and I will tell you the relevance. The Christians or cultural Christians have self-identified or have not been afraid to self-identify. Are you afraid to state your truth?
As I said, there is no relevance to your question. Who or what I identify as, has no bearing on this topic and my response to it. Your question presupposes a myopia that I will not buy in to. Too many of you like to categorize people in small boxes and only then can deal with the issue. It's not happening here.
Religions rely on fabricated myths of gods and heaven, rewards and punishment, to justify Man’s Inhumanity To Man. The longest con known to, and created by, Man. Man is the only creature with gods, and the only one that needs them—
Muslims smear themselves with their propensity for violence. Last I checked, no Jews in Europe have ever gone around beheading, cutting citizens throats, killing European citizens simply because of something said about a man who died hundreds of years ago. Can you say the same of muslims?
If you don't want Israel to go on a mass murder spree, then muslims should have left them alone. What do you muslims think was going to happen after the murderous events of October 7th carried out by vicious violent muslims? You poke the tiger and now crying when the tiger decides to maul you.
Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate discuss Israel's massacre of aid workers from the US-supported World Central Kitchen, its attack on an Iranian consular facilit...
If you’re thinking along the lines of Pascal’s Wager, that’s a hedged bet, a fallacy to boot. Belief based on a loophole or false promise is ignoble at best. Any god wouldn’t respect a chicken heart.
Most people who criticize Islam do it because they are against state/church control of individuals - i.e., they are for freedom.
You might be right half of your claim.
I have lived long enough to know the "monster" we have.
Here is an example of King Hassan II and the way he treated an old preacher just because he "gesticulate" with his hands while lecturing his religious Ramadan lesson.
راه ممكن نقول فيكم شي قصيدة ديال الشعر بكثرة ما كنحبكم .. غير نقول ؟؟ حرف الباء (ب) زورق يطفو سابحا فوق قطرة واحدة. نزيد ولا 🤨 ؟حرف (ن) زلافة خاوية فيها حمص...
However these tyrans, the "nature" already reserved to them the "medic" that fit to them and bring them to the ground: The Algerian regime (and add to it the South African regime).
This said the West has only his monsters and evils. Only the form has changed but the essence is the same. Tyrannie with a change of form.
I believe to some extent we give our ignorance the name of God. Some people see God as a stern and worldly law giver about whom we know too much. We know exactly what he thinks of fashion, food, politics and sex. And we invoke this angry being in the sky to justify a million regulations and conflicts that we find objectionable. He apparently gets upset when women wear short sleeve shirts and show the legs and when 2 men have sex with each other or when teenagers masturbate.
Tell us your religion and I will tell you the relevance. The Christians or cultural Christians have self-identified or have not been afraid to self-identify. Are you afraid to state your truth?
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