It was put out this morning. I was paying very close attention to the sport when all this went down years ago. So to be honest, I'm not sure I feel like spending 2 hours listening to it all being rehashed. That said, if one of you have listened to it and find something noteworthy about Nike and or AlSal that actually moves the story forward, let us know.
I listen to him sometimes, but kind of find his show boring and repetitive. He also interviews just about anyone without questioning them: Christopher McDougall being one of the more annoying examples. David Goggins another. Mainly a lot of "yeah bro" type discussion. I will listen to this one. At least Kara was a great athlete and not some hype machine.
Looking forward to listening but concerned it's the same. One thing I find frustrating with Kara's repeated Nike take is her lack of pressure on Schumacher and Shalanes group. Kara is the only athlete that was a member of both Nike run programs and she only presses on one again and again. Both groups were proven shady and it makes Kara seem on a personal vendetta instead of a clean sport push.
An interesting part was when she said many in the professional-elite running world are convinced that you must be doping to podium today. She does not 100% share that belief but she will never be surprised if anyone gets popped these days. She remarked about how fast she saw people recover from insanely hard workouts that everyone knows need rest. Also interesting to learn about the saline injection to hide their doping through dilution.
The IVs to cover up doping have been around forever. I believe that is one of the reasons along with L-caritenne (spelling) that WADA doesn’t allow random IVs anymore.
Tyler Hamiltons book about cycling shows how well this worked. IV and a salt tab, boom.
I remember hearing a wild conspiracy a few years ago that Kara and Adam were going to spill the beans and whistle blow the world Oregon project. Admit to doping and throw everyone under the bus. To avoid the doo doo storm Alberto was creatively removed using Mary Cain, Kara also started getting more announcing jobs so they stayed quiet.
wild but I could probably be convinced of anything in the track world
An interesting part was when she said many in the professional-elite running world are convinced that you must be doping to podium today. She does not 100% share that belief but she will never be surprised if anyone gets popped these days. She remarked about how fast she saw people recover from insanely hard workouts that everyone knows need rest. Also interesting to learn about the saline injection to hide their doping through dilution.
Thanks for chiming in after listening to it. And to your point, I'll never forget Rupp running mile repeats right after setting the AR in the 2 mile being shown by Flotrack. It was as if AlSal was rubbing everyone's nose in the idea that we can work harder than everyone, because we know he'll recover. I mean my god, just don't do things like this publicly so it's not so obvious.
Looking forward to listening but concerned it's the same. One thing I find frustrating with Kara's repeated Nike take is her lack of pressure on Schumacher and Shalanes group. Kara is the only athlete that was a member of both Nike run programs and she only presses on one again and again. Both groups were proven shady and it makes Kara seem on a personal vendetta instead of a clean sport push.
The ultimate irony for Kara's narrative. Only one group between BTC and NOP had an athlete actually test positive.
Really the collective holding back amongst the elite running community w/r/t Shelby was a big moment. It showed us who the phonies are.
Many of the usual suspects were all curiously silent about it. Or they gave vague anti-doping stances that didn't directly address Shelby.
Phonies trying desperately to follow the status quo. And/or dirty themselves.
An interesting part was when she said many in the professional-elite running world are convinced that you must be doping to podium today. She does not 100% share that belief but she will never be surprised if anyone gets popped these days. She remarked about how fast she saw people recover from insanely hard workouts that everyone knows need rest. Also interesting to learn about the saline injection to hide their doping through dilution.
Thanks for chiming in after listening to it. And to your point, I'll never forget Rupp running mile repeats right after setting the AR in the 2 mile being shown by Flotrack. It was as if AlSal was rubbing everyone's nose in the idea that we can work harder than everyone, because we know he'll recover. I mean my god, just don't do things like this publicly so it's not so obvious.
LOL!!!!! Yes you got me there too!!! It's quite obvious Galen was doped AF running mile repeats after a 2mile AR LOL!!!!! And the best thing was it done in such an ostentatious manner as if parading a 10 carat diamond neckless or 100,000 Dior Handbag!!!!!!!!! Like it was meant to show-off!!!!!!!
I lost all respect for Salazar as a man and person because dude was too fake and pretentious and doing things clearly for the views and not from the HEART AND SOUL AND SPIRIT OR FOR JESUS/GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to listening but concerned it's the same. One thing I find frustrating with Kara's repeated Nike take is her lack of pressure on Schumacher and Shalanes group. Kara is the only athlete that was a member of both Nike run programs and she only presses on one again and again. Both groups were proven shady and it makes Kara seem on a personal vendetta instead of a clean sport push.
The ultimate irony for Kara's narrative. Only one group between BTC and NOP had an athlete actually test positive.
Really the collective holding back amongst the elite running community w/r/t Shelby was a big moment. It showed us who the phonies are.
Many of the usual suspects were all curiously silent about it. Or they gave vague anti-doping stances that didn't directly address Shelby.
Phonies trying desperately to follow the status quo. And/or dirty themselves.
She spends considerable time addressing the internal conflicts a Pro runner (female) has spilling the beans or speaking out against the people and corporations that are making your life dreams come true.
Thanks for chiming in after listening to it. And to your point, I'll never forget Rupp running mile repeats right after setting the AR in the 2 mile being shown by Flotrack. It was as if AlSal was rubbing everyone's nose in the idea that we can work harder than everyone, because we know he'll recover. I mean my god, just don't do things like this publicly so it's not so obvious.
LOL!!!!! Yes you got me there too!!! It's quite obvious Galen was doped AF running mile repeats after a 2mile AR LOL!!!!! And the best thing was it done in such an ostentatious manner as if parading a 10 carat diamond neckless or 100,000 Dior Handbag!!!!!!!!! Like it was meant to show-off!!!!!!!
I lost all respect for Salazar as a man and person because dude was too fake and pretentious and doing things clearly for the views and not from the HEART AND SOUL AND SPIRIT OR FOR JESUS/GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such a man is pure filth.......
it's interesting he felt the need to do it at all. professional runners have a schedule that is soft as F. they can take their time and put in the workout blocks they need at almost any time of the year. There is almost no reason not to just enjoy the win, and move onto the workouts another day.
Whereas in high school, you get these monster schedules with Dual Meets on weekdays and invites on weekends. if you want to give the kids rest days, it can be advantageous to fit the workout stuff in after a light meet. Then your two workout days are the meet days. no messing around on the other days trying to fit something in that you feel is missing.
It was put out this morning. I was paying very close attention to the sport when all this went down years ago. So to be honest, I'm not sure I feel like spending 2 hours listening to it all being rehashed. That said, if one of you have listened to it and find something noteworthy about Nike and or AlSal that actually moves the story forward, let us know.
Did she mention that she introduced Dr. Brown to Salazar?
He needed to do it all because Flotrack, I remembered was specifically called down to video the entire session at Boston's University Indoor Track LOL!!!!!
Clearly, Salazar had an artificial agenda at first instance by these specific train of space-time occurrences, and as we know all artificial human acts are FULL OF AFFECTATION-------byword for immoral, dark or evil design!!!!!!!!!
Trying to desperately showboat a super fit Galen able to run an insane workout 20minutes or otherwise after an 2 mile AR is highly susceptible behavior for doping!!!!!
It was put out this morning. I was paying very close attention to the sport when all this went down years ago. So to be honest, I'm not sure I feel like spending 2 hours listening to it all being rehashed. That said, if one of you have listened to it and find something noteworthy about Nike and or AlSal that actually moves the story forward, let us know.
Did she mention that she introduced Dr. Brown to Salazar?
It was put out this morning. I was paying very close attention to the sport when all this went down years ago. So to be honest, I'm not sure I feel like spending 2 hours listening to it all being rehashed. That said, if one of you have listened to it and find something noteworthy about Nike and or AlSal that actually moves the story forward, let us know.
Did she mention that she introduced Dr. Brown to Salazar?
She does. She actually takes time to stop the discussion in full disclosure and explains exactly how she introduced him to the team. I think she's still struggling with her relationships with Nike and AlSal. He seems like a creep to me, but also a creep that people seemed to acknowledge and support prior to him becoming "problematic."
He needed to do it all because Flotrack, I remembered was specifically called down to video the entire session at Boston's University Indoor Track LOL!!!!!
Clearly, Salazar had an artificial agenda at first instance by these specific train of space-time occurrences, and as we know all artificial human acts are FULL OF AFFECTATION-------byword for immoral, dark or evil design!!!!!!!!!
Trying to desperately showboat a super fit Galen able to run an insane workout 20minutes or otherwise after an 2 mile AR is highly susceptible behavior for doping!!!!!
Yet now some girl from Maine is winning World Indoors with a time of 8:20 for the 3k and college kids are running 26:52 for 10k. And that’s just good old fashion hard and real coaching.
Funny to think the NOP was thought to be dirty by all the jealous coaches and athletes - when in reality they were just a little ahead of their time.
The pass Coogan and Smith get compared to Salazar…..
Well at least Kara did neither fall for nor repeat the Burrito joke. But like Tygart and Tucker she wondered whether it was in the supplements. That theory however got rejected by Shelby herself. All very weird indeed.
Every time I read threads about Kara I am well aware who has read her book and who hasn't. If you think her book is about a vendetta then you obviously haven't read it.
Every time I read threads about Kara I am well aware who has read her book and who hasn't. If you think her book is about a vendetta then you obviously haven't read it.
Kara was Engaged to Adam’s best friend before Adam. She’s not liked by her former teammates for a reason. She’s not a good person and narcissistic. She’s full time blame everyone else