Jakob has won the European championships in the 1500 four times, two indoors, two outdoors. The indoor winning times being 3:37 and 3:33 and the outdoor winning times being 3:38 and 3:32. Sounds to me like he's doing fine in both slow tactical races and fast races running in the front.
Poster, you are not confusing Diamond League circus meets with real T&F meets are you? You meant Florence, ITL, correct? I ignore all Diamond League meets. The majority of Diamond League meets are partial meets. IMO, events with a paid pacer is cheating.
You are allowed to have a dream about Diamond league races without a pacer. But the reality is that almost all the WR’s (800m an exception of course) are set with pacers, so it’s hard to break them without. But maybe a healthy Jakob would at least tried to pr front running in the 1500m WC 2023…
600m man! In the 5000m final inDoha 2019 Jakob had just turned 19. If Jakob had been in his 2022 WC final (water sipping) shape in Doha he would have destroyed the field.
So a sub 12:50 would make it difficult for Jakob? Have you forgot Florens 2021?
And the 3000m DL final last year where he beat the low 12:40 runners Kejelcha, Haile Bekele, Barega and Aregawi ON TIRED LEGS.
Jakob could obviously have broken 12:40 last year considering the above 3000m and especially his 2 mile WB.
If Jakob overcomes his injury problems he will continue to destroy the 5000m fields. It doesn´t matter if the pace is fast or not since he has a superior aerobic capacity even to the East Africans and is a faster finisher.
Poster, you are not confusing Diamond League circus meets with real T&F meets are you? You meant Florence, ITL, correct? I ignore all Diamond League meets. The majority of Diamond League meets are partial meets. IMO, events with a paid pacer is cheating.
You do realize all the low 12:40s the East Africans posted last year were in DL events with a pacer? The second they get into the WC final, they run terrible tactics and are left in the dust in the final 400 and REALLY dropped back in the final 100.
If Tokyo goes out in sub 12:50, Jakob is just gonna take what’s given to him and latch onto that pace. His aerobic engine speaks for himself, pacers or not pacers. He was on his own for the last 1100 in his 2 mile wr (800 more than what Kerr got following Fisher), and he took over from before the mile mark in the DL final 3k with with 3:43 legs under him.
He’s the 2-time reigning world champ for a reason, and until someone can beat him in a 5k, he should be thought of as the favorite.
You're an idiot. I guess anybody sitting behind somebody in a race is cheating then since thats what you are saying about "pacers". I guess kerr cheated in the 1500 final by sitting behind Jakob. What a moron
Poster, you are not confusing Diamond League circus meets with real T&F meets are you? You meant Florence, ITL, correct? I ignore all Diamond League meets. The majority of Diamond League meets are partial meets. IMO, events with a paid pacer is cheating.
You do realize all the low 12:40s the East Africans posted last year were in DL events with a pacer? The second they get into the WC final, they run terrible tactics and are left in the dust in the final 400 and REALLY dropped back in the final 100.
If Tokyo goes out in sub 12:50, Jakob is just gonna take what’s given to him and latch onto that pace. His aerobic engine speaks for himself, pacers or not pacers. He was on his own for the last 1100 in his 2 mile wr (800 more than what Kerr got following Fisher), and he took over from before the mile mark in the DL final 3k with with 3:43 legs under him.
He’s the 2-time reigning world champ for a reason, and until someone can beat him in a 5k, he should be thought of as the favorite.
I am not saying Jakob wins for sure as I really hope he will be in top shape this year bc I think there never was a time where so many 12:40ish and sub 3:30 athletes competed ever at the same time but if he is fit, too, it will be fantastic competition.
I'd love to see JI go for 3:25-27 in the final and have a historic race and have a close in the 5k we never saw before as the 12:40-45 athletes try to wind it up the last mile or so...
I am not saying Jakob wins for sure as I really hope he will be in top shape this year bc I think there never was a time where so many 12:40ish and sub 3:30 athletes competed ever at the same time but if he is fit, too, it will be fantastic competition.
I'd love to see JI go for 3:25-27 in the final and have a historic race and have a close in the 5k we never saw before as the 12:40-45 athletes try to wind it up the last mile or so...
Pretty much agreeing with you here -but the pace is important, IMO, also in the 5000m (even more important than a dominant win for Jakob): I hope for a “cool” evening in Paris, with temperatures that open for a WR. My dream scenario is 3-4 guys (including Jakob) pushing the pace together, sharing the work in an honest way, and Jakob for the win in a new WR just some hundreds of a second better than the next couple of guys…
Of course all this is my bias as a Norwegian (would also like a stellar Nordås in the 5000m), and a hope of Jakob eventually building a legacy on route to dominance in multiple distances. But saying that I also really would like a guy like Kejelcha for the win -would be much deserved. But the Ethiopian can also of course win the 10000m or even the half marathon…
600m man! In the 5000m final inDoha 2019 Jakob had just turned 19. If Jakob had been in his 2022 WC final (water sipping) shape in Doha he would have destroyed the field.
So a sub 12:50 would make it difficult for Jakob? Have you forgot Florens 2021?
And the 3000m DL final last year where he beat the low 12:40 runners Kejelcha, Haile Bekele, Barega and Aregawi ON TIRED LEGS.
Jakob could obviously have broken 12:40 last year considering the above 3000m and especially his 2 mile WB.
If Jakob overcomes his injury problems he will continue to destroy the 5000m fields. It doesn´t matter if the pace is fast or not since he has a superior aerobic capacity even to the East Africans and is a faster finisher.
Poster, you are not confusing Diamond League circus meets with real T&F meets are you? You meant Florence, ITL, correct? I ignore all Diamond League meets. The majority of Diamond League meets are partial meets. IMO, events with a paid pacer is cheating.
So you are ignoring DL races 600m man? And consider paid pacing as cheating?
Do you realize that you have no argument regarding why some runners should be able to beat Jakob in a sub 12:50.
How will you find the actual runners to do so if the low 12:40 DL races last year were irrelevant and just filled with cheaters?