USA FOUR MEDALS IN THE 1,500

It was nice to see but the fields were weak. It's an Olympic year so many of the top runners weren't competing or like Kerr, Nuguse and St. Pierre were in the 3000.

USA middle distance has come a long way since the 2000s.

People have to stop using this. In every race- Olympic, Worlds, Indoors, Outdoors, Cross-Country- someone isn't going to be there.

We had an awesome mid d race (except for the Women's 800.

It's indoors. Calm down.

You can’t really compare World Indoors to the Olympics (or outdoors it seems). Most athletes who qualify for the Olympics will turn up.

From the UK alone we did not have in the 1500m men and women - George Mills, Jake Weightman, Neil Gourlay, Kerr (did 3k), Laura Muir (3k) Katie Snowden, Melissa Courtney-Bryant. Other countries- no Faith, no Hassan, no Jakob, Jess Hull ran the 3k etc. That’s not ‘someone’ that’s many of the best 1500m runners in the world

It’s impressive that so many US athletes turned up and did well. That is true. Poor showing from the UK for whatever reason.

For the men 3 of the top 8 from last year's final were in the race, including the bronze medalist who did not win a medal this time. And Nuguse is one of the people who you think would do better, and he is still an American. The point of this post is that Americans are looking pretty good in the 1500m. To me it showed it's reasonable for all three of our Olympic 1500m runners make the final, and very reasonable to think America could come away with a medal, and possibly an outside shot that it could be two medals. The women could also be in the mix for a medal, likely from Elle being as good as ever. The 3k may be her best event, we'll see if she puts the focus on the 1500m or 5k.

The 1500 fields were so competitive that medalists from Budapest failed to medal in Glasgow.

The fields were missing big names, no doubt about it, but then that is always the case at World Indoors and the U.S. has never come close to this kind of result. We should celebrate it. 400m is usually our strength and we did badly, whereas the distances are usually our weakness and we had gold at men's 800m, gold at women's 3000m--over the world record holder at 5000m, 14:00!--silver at men's 3,000m behind the World 1500m champ/2M indoor world best, and silver and bronze in both men's and women's 1500m. That is a great result and definitely auspicious for our outdoor chances in tougher fields.

It was the strongest meet we have seen yet for 2024

Because only two of the medalists from Budapest actually ran the 1500 in Glasgow and they both finished 5th. If Kipyegon and Ingebrigsten were running it would have been a totally different result.

Elle has a shot at a medal in the 15. She can probably break Shelby’s AR, which got Shelby 4th at World’s, but Hiltz and Mackay have no shot unless one of them has a massive breakthrough and can run sub-3:55.

Honestly Mackay is only 25 and is training partners with St. Pierre so she could make a jump over the next few years, but I don’t expect that for the Olympics. Her PR last from last summer is the same as Nikki’s.

Hiltz has a great kick but has only improved 2 secs in the 1500 from 2019 to 2023 (4:01->3:59) and is going to turn 30 this year. I kinda group Hiltz with Cory McGee who is stuck in that 4:00 flat range, which can get you on the US team but has no chance in a Kipyegon race.

I actually think Elle Perrier being back in the 1500 will make the Oly trials tough for them because she can probably front run a 3:56/57. And Elise Cranny has a 3:58 PR off 10k training so if she goes for the 15 this year, you’re gonna have to be in probably 3:57 shape to make the team.

Agree on this. Mackay can run 3:57 though. She's noticeably better than last season when she ran 3:59. She is great in a fast race, doesn't have the blistering kick to close in 28 off a slower pace though.

Hiltz has no chance in a 3:50-3:55 race.

The meet began Friday morning with both American men failing to advance in the 400 and both American women knocked out in the first round of the 800. Amazing that those early indications somehow turned into 7 medals from 800 to 3000 including 2 gold.

Normally the global indoor meets conclude with the 4 x 400 relays. It seemed strange they altered it this year. But it definitely worked out well, given the bizarre 1500s. I thought Hailu and Welteji would clear the field.

How can anybody diminish these results? American women defeated Tsegay, Welteji and Haylom. The odds on that would not have even worth calculating beforehand.

You win 3 countries of your choice. That's the payout.

No, it won't translate outdoors. Those races quickly get strung out. Dramatic speed edge separated by tiers. I enjoyed watching it this time. That's why it's laughable to dismiss indoors. There are different variables so you get different winners, just like short course swimming versus long course.

The USA guys who medaled in the 1500/3000 are adolescents who need all the practice they can get before the Olympics. This was just what the pediatrician ordered.

I could run faster. I ran a 4:02 in high school. I know I've been working a desk job for a decade, but I'm pretty sure I can now run 3:10 in the 1500 easy. I mean, it's more than 100ms less than the mile I ran in HS.

Also, Josh Kerr is wasting his training. He really should be doing 10x200m at 22, followed by 8x400m at 50. I know what I'm talking about. I ran a 4:02 mile in HS.