Rupp losing all ARs on the track.. any chance left for the Marathon?

Sorry I meant Marathon AR not WR

He has proven what he is capable of .... 2:08:48 at Chicago last Fall. This was a race where the WR was set for men. Why would you think he SHOULD be able to do better than that? At this stage of the game every 6 months that goes by makes it harder to reach previous levels. If he hasn't run low-2:05 in the last 10 years, why would you think he would be able to put it together now?

As far as "figuring out his training", he's been training for 25 yrs now. If he hasn't put an AR marathon together yet, it's not likely he will do it now when he has shown he could not match the best in the USA (Mantz and Clayton) TWICE in the last several months.

Dude is at the end of his career, which isn't bad so much as it just "is." Getting "old" and injuries the past few years have negated and chance he had to chasing the marathon AR or winning another major. But that's just the reality and ok! He has no-questionably had a successful (but highly, highly controversial) career, so it's not like he has a lot more to do or has a lot of "what ifs" left to cement himself as an American all-time great. And "losing" records isn't that big of a deal as all are broken eventually and what's more important is setting them in the first place. He can compete for another year or two, earn some cash to throw on the pile, and finally rest on his laurels.

Don’t you guys think it’s weird how a generational bred American can potentially lose a record to a foreigner who gets Americanized and gets citizenship in a few years? In my opinion a national record should be set by someone born there. Rupp for the American record no matter what.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. In fact, my reply would have likely been tinged with derision, so kudos to you for keeping it friendly.

No.

He just joined Frank Shorter, Steve Prefontaine, and Bob Kennedy in the garbage heap.

Nico Young has taken over the duty of rage tilting letsrunners without even trying.

Cam Levins had a few bad years, everybody thought he was done, then he ran 2:05.36

K. Bekele had a few bad years and is over 40 years old everyone thought he was done, Then he ran 2:04.21

Sometimes fading Athletes still show Flashes of Brilliance. G. Rupp is not and never was as talented as K. Bekele, but he was always more talented than Cam Levins, I hope he has 1 Great effort left and runs The AR and maybe even beats Ryan Halls 2:04.58 Odds are against it I Know, but if not him then who? Grant Fisher Maybe? Klecker? Nuguse? They are fast enough, but The Marathon you can never tell, until they run one and are they even interested? as they are Very Successful in the Events they are in

Time will tell, but Frank Shorter is still Tied with Bill Rodgers as the Best American Mararathoner Ever and is 2nd at 10000, and Pre And Kennedy have points in their events as well (Based on Track and Field News Points), Lets see who knocks Rodgers and Shorter off the The Top American Marathon list.

Galen is definitely top 5 all time in terms of American greats. I’m not sure if I’d automatically give him GOAT status, because I consider the dominance that other athletes had on their competition as well. Granted, Galen has a respectable amount of fast times and medals. So that puts him up there for sure. Have to consider his longevity and versatility too.

unfortunately, I do think Galen is past his prime. I do not think he has it in him to get the American marathon record. He just hasn’t given a result in recent memory that indicates he has the ability to do it at this point, and the general trend of his recent marks are getting slower. He may be able to get under 2:10 yet, but I feel he might be capped somewhere around 2:08:30, and will only get slower from there at this point. Still darn good for a runner, but not GOAT level. And, honestly, he is getting eclipsed by more and more youngsters every day.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with aging. We all know this will happen to us eventually. We have to learn to accept it and enjoy the amazing years Galen had.

I am inclined to believe the absence of Salazar has had some long-term effect on his performances, whatever that might be. There was not an immediate drop-off after Salazar left the picture, but performances have seemed to gradually get less impressive since the 2020 trials. Yes, this can correspond with the fact he is aging, but truthfully I would have thought that downward slope would have been delayed a few more years. I and not ruling out the possibility that the absence of Salazar had been a negative force on Rupps performances.

That’s all I was asking but boy we got some Rupp haters up in here. It’s not that Serious guys it was only a question.

I love this response. My immediate thought was a hard no, but you never know. I wanted to be surprised at the trials by him. I would really love to see a renaissance like the ones you’ve mentioned above, but he doesn’t owe it to anyone. He’s had a wonderful career.

In ten years time you will have forgotten all about this doped up has been, and be all gooey eyed about some other mediocre doper who beats the ar but is still 5 minutes slower than the front of the field.

He only won a silver in the Olympics. Some of these “elite” clubs in Colorado have 10 guys and maybe 1 or 2 of them made a final.

Is this a serious post because the serious answer is that he has no chance unless there is a new version of super shoes that will do wonders for him.

Cam had his bad years around age 30, and ran the North American record at age 33. Bekele ran a 2:01 marathon at his best, and then ran a 2:04 (nearly 3 minutes slower) at age 40. Rupp is 37, will be 38 this spring. Rupp at his best in the marathon was a couple 2:06 type races. So maybe I could see him running a 2:07 in the next 12 months somewhere at best, but I don't think we're going to see another 2:06 from him, and certainly not a mid 2:05 for the American Record.

The others you mentioned, no way Nuguse runs a world class marathon. Klecker I'm the most confident will run a 'good' one, like for sure 2:07, maybe 2:06. But even he probably isn't going to be running 2:05. Fisher has a slightly higher ceiling, but I'm not as confident he'll translate perfectly to the marathon and could see him running a 2:07.

Salazar is in the conversation with Shorter and Rodgers. He was the American Record Holder for the 5k, 10k, and the Marathon simultaneously (plus was a Silver Medalist at World Cross). He was undefeated at NYC (3 wins) and Boston. This was all before he turned 24.

Plus Salazar was not from a completely different era than Shorter or Rodgers. He was only about ten years younger than both and Bill Rodgers PR from Boston 1979 was only run the year before Salazar first won NYC in 1980.

Those records don’t count anyhow.

Galen Rupp will pop a 2:05 any day now.