Maia Ramsden/Harvard . . . fresh off her 4:30 opener . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by ESP & Jess Hull . . . Tuohy's 4:24.26 CR could be threatened . . .
Adam Spencer/WI & Liam Murphy/Villanova . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by Nuguse, Kessler, Mills, Garcia Romo . . . Teare's 3:50.39 CR could also come down . . .
Note: Laura Muir/GBR just changed events . . . now racing the 2 mile vs Monson, Hiltz, Eisa, Wudu . . .
Maia Ramsden/Harvard . . . fresh off her 4:30 opener . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by ESP & Jess Hull . . . Tuohy's 4:24.26 CR could be threatened . . .
Adam Spencer/WI & Liam Murphy/Villanova . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by Nuguse, Kessler, Mills, Garcia Romo . . . Teare's 3:50.39 CR could also come down . . .
Note: Laura Muir/GBR just changed events . . . now racing the 2 mile vs Monson, Hiltz, Eisa, Wudu . . .
I suspect the pace of ESP and Hull will be way too fast for Maia to handle. Maybe someone like Schlachtenhaufen or Dani Jones would be better to follow? One would think the top 2 2 will be aiming sub 4:20. But I hope Maia does well.
Maia Ramsden/Harvard . . . fresh off her 4:30 opener . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by ESP & Jess Hull . . . Tuohy's 4:24.26 CR could be threatened . . .
Adam Spencer/WI & Liam Murphy/Villanova . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by Nuguse, Kessler, Mills, Garcia Romo . . . Teare's 3:50.39 CR could also come down . . .
Note: Laura Muir/GBR just changed events . . . now racing the 2 mile vs Monson, Hiltz, Eisa, Wudu . . .
I suspect the pace of ESP and Hull will be way too fast for Maia to handle. Maybe someone like Schlachtenhaufen or Dani Jones would be better to follow? One would think the top 2 2 will be aiming sub 4:20. But I hope Maia does well.
I wonder why Muir moved to the 2 mile? 2 mile will be so good.
Maybe Ramsden will try to stick with them? You are right though, with ESP, Andrews, Hull at the front this will be very fast sub 4:20 for sure. Tuohy's record could be in jeopardy.
I suspect the pace of ESP and Hull will be way too fast for Maia to handle. Maybe someone like Schlachtenhaufen or Dani Jones would be better to follow? One would think the top 2 2 will be aiming sub 4:20. But I hope Maia does well.
I wonder why Muir moved to the 2 mile? 2 mile will be so good.
Maybe Ramsden will try to stick with them? You are right though, with ESP, Andrews, Hull at the front this will be very fast sub 4:20 for sure. Tuohy's record could be in jeopardy.
supposedly Muir found out a 3k she already ran won't count for world indoor qualifying and she wants to run world indoors in the 3k. they'll have a 3k split in the 2 mile.
Doubtful. I think the newly refurbished BU track will prove seconds faster than Millrose.
Not just the track, it's the perfect field for a college runner to get dragged to a fast time. She has 4:08.6 pb at 1500, so a fast mile certainly possible.
Not happening. Murphy would need to pr by 3.5 seconds and Adams Spencers one run this year was a 1:49.83 800 which is well off his 1:46 pr. Maia didn't solo run her 4:30.0, she got 4th in it so i find it unlikely she goes faster than 4:27. If we had Nico Young or a couple of the Washington guys I'd be happy to consider a possible collegiate mile record.
Or Essayi yes. Unless that 800 was a complete rust-buster, you’d think Murphy and Spencer would be happy to run 3:52-3.
Murphy has already run 3:53 this year, closing in 26 and winning by two seconds, in his opener. The collegiate record might be a stretch but 3:50 to 3:51 would not be surprising. The kid is really good.
Maia Ramsden/Harvard . . . fresh off her 4:30 opener . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by ESP & Jess Hull . . . Tuohy's 4:24.26 CR could be threatened . . .
Maia Ramsden looked like she didn't have anything left in her 4:30 mile. No way she all of a sudden drops another 6 seconds.
Maia Ramsden/Harvard . . . fresh off her 4:30 opener . . . in the Wanamaker Mile . . . being pulled along by ESP & Jess Hull . . . Tuohy's 4:24.26 CR could be threatened . . .
Maia Ramsden looked like she didn't have anything left in her 4:30 mile. No way she all of a sudden drops another 6 seconds.
Murphy has already run 3:53 this year, closing in 26 and winning by two seconds, in his opener. The collegiate record might be a stretch but 3:50 to 3:51 would not be surprising. The kid is really good.
Just to be precise he ran 3:53.85 and yes it was a nice kick closing in 26.30 after getting some nice drafting from Wolfe who accelerated from 400-200. To me 3:50 would be relatively surprising and he’d be plenty happy to run a PR of 3:52.0-3:53.5 as I had. 3:51 is in the realm sure if things work out well. This race will be going out in 56/1:53 and we’ll see where he slots in and how good a ride he gets. It’d be great if he hits 3:50-3:51, and would vault him into the Waskom/Essayi/Hauser range for sure.
Murphy has already run 3:53 this year, closing in 26 and winning by two seconds, in his opener. The collegiate record might be a stretch but 3:50 to 3:51 would not be surprising. The kid is really good.
Just to be precise he ran 3:53.85 and yes it was a nice kick closing in 26.30 after getting some nice drafting from Wolfe who accelerated from 400-200. To me 3:50 would be relatively surprising and he’d be plenty happy to run a PR of 3:52.0-3:53.5 as I had. 3:51 is in the realm sure if things work out well. This race will be going out in 56/1:53 and we’ll see where he slots in and how good a ride he gets. It’d be great if he hits 3:50-3:51, and would vault him into the Waskom/Essayi/Hauser range for sure.
Murphy would beat Nico Young at the mile. Too shifty and has run 1:46.7 relay leg. Young's mile was seriously over converted down, for a guy at Altitude for three years.
Murphy would beat Nico Young at the mile. Too shifty and has run 1:46.7 relay leg. Young's mile was seriously over converted down, for a guy at Altitude for three years.
Depends on the race. Certainly in a tactical one or slow-paced one you’d like Murphy. If they’re in a single file race with Nico going out in 1:55-1:56, I think he can run 3:50.5-3:52 and I’m not as sure about Murphy getting past him.
Murphy has already run 3:53 this year, closing in 26 and winning by two seconds, in his opener. The collegiate record might be a stretch but 3:50 to 3:51 would not be surprising. The kid is really good.
Just to be precise he ran 3:53.85 and yes it was a nice kick closing in 26.30 after getting some nice drafting from Wolfe who accelerated from 400-200. To me 3:50 would be relatively surprising and he’d be plenty happy to run a PR of 3:52.0-3:53.5 as I had. 3:51 is in the realm sure if things work out well. This race will be going out in 56/1:53 and we’ll see where he slots in and how good a ride he gets. It’d be great if he hits 3:50-3:51, and would vault him into the Waskom/Essayi/Hauser range for sure.
"Drafting?" He smacked Wolfe, it was not even close, did you even see this live or other.I did, it was a complete rip your heart out, blow by like he was standing still, move by Murphy. He may not run even 3:52.00 PSU is a very solid fast venue. But, make no mistake, there was a bit more there than that.
Murphy would beat Nico Young at the mile. Too shifty and has run 1:46.7 relay leg. Young's mile was seriously over converted down, for a guy at Altitude for three years.
Depends on the race. Certainly in a tactical one or slow-paced one you’d like Murphy. If they’re in a single file race with Nico going out in 1:55-1:56, I think he can run 3:50.5-3:52 and I’m not as sure about Murphy getting past him.
We disagree, and I am most likely in the minority so I get that. I do not think Young can run 3:50, I think he may be able to run 3:52-53. And that the conversion was way too much for HIM, not others who have not been up there bearly as long.
"Drafting?" He smacked Wolfe, it was not even close, did you even see this live or other.I did, it was a complete rip your heart out, blow by like he was standing still, move by Murphy. He may not run even 3:52.00 PSU is a very solid fast venue. But, make no mistake, there was a bit more there than that.
Meaning to say he sat on the guy and hammered him. You know as well as me, it will be a harder race execution at Millrose. Go out in 28 or he’ll be dead last. If dead last, how many guys to pass to hit even splits etc? Do you get a fast second pack behind Yared, Hobbs and Mills? Or a bunch of guys hitting 3:52 with a kick. It will get tricky.
Depends on the race. Certainly in a tactical one or slow-paced one you’d like Murphy. If they’re in a single file race with Nico going out in 1:55-1:56, I think he can run 3:50.5-3:52 and I’m not as sure about Murphy getting past him.
We disagree, and I am most likely in the minority so I get that. I do not think Young can run 3:50, I think he may be able to run 3:52-53. And that the conversion was way too much for HIM, not others who have not been up there bearly as long.
I also think 3:50 or a CR is very very unlikely , as the traffic alone will be much more than the Teare race
Yeah I think we mostly agree. I think Murphy has a 3:51 possibly there, but the race setup is tough and he’d be happy with 3:52-3:53.5 and kicking well with the second pack. Sure if he got invited to a time trial with Hocker/Teare a la Beadlescomb a couple years back he could go 3:51 very well.
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