Nico Young’s mile potential is underrated

Jakobosa wrote:

Obviously Nico Young’s never been seen as a 1500/miler, but the dude ran 3:37 when he was a teenager. Then he runs a 3:57 at altitude and, conversions aside, he beat a 3:38 and a 3:39 guy by six seconds. This all hints that he could be a formidable 1500-5k guy.

He’s seen as having not a lot of top end speed, but Jakob and Nordas have shown that with incredible aerobic endurance you don’t necessarily need 1:45 speed to be a great miler/5k guy. I could see Nico running a 3:29 1500m and 12:50 5k like Katir in a few years.

Jakobosa wrote:

Obviously Nico Young’s never been seen as a 1500/miler, but the dude ran 3:37 when he was a teenager. Then he runs a 3:57 at altitude and, conversions aside, he beat a 3:38 and a 3:39 guy by six seconds. This all hints that he could be a formidable 1500-5k guy.

He’s seen as having not a lot of top end speed, but Jakob and Nordas have shown that with incredible aerobic endurance you don’t necessarily need 1:45 speed to be a great miler/5k guy. I could see Nico running a 3:29 1500m and 12:50 5k like Katir in a few years.

Jakobosa wrote:

Obviously Nico Young’s never been seen as a 1500/miler, but the dude ran 3:37 when he was a teenager. Then he runs a 3:57 at altitude and, conversions aside, he beat a 3:38 and a 3:39 guy by six seconds. This all hints that he could be a formidable 1500-5k guy.

He’s seen as having not a lot of top end speed, but Jakob and Nordas have shown that with incredible aerobic endurance you don’t necessarily need 1:45 speed to be a great miler/5k guy. I could see Nico running a 3:29 1500m and 12:50 5k like Katir in a few years.

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

Jakobosa wrote:

Obviously Nico Young’s never been seen as a 1500/miler, but the dude ran 3:37 when he was a teenager. Then he runs a 3:57 at altitude and, conversions aside, he beat a 3:38 and a 3:39 guy by six seconds. This all hints that he could be a formidable 1500-5k guy.

He’s seen as having not a lot of top end speed, but Jakob and Nordas have shown that with incredible aerobic endurance you don’t necessarily need 1:45 speed to be a great miler/5k guy. I could see Nico running a 3:29 1500m and 12:50 5k like Katir in a few years.

He’s still going to need faster than 1:52 speed.

Jakobosa wrote:

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

He’s still going to need faster than 1:52 speed.

I’m fairly certain someone who can close a sub 7:40 3k in 27 seconds for the last 200m can run a sub 1:52 800m

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

Jakobosa wrote:

I’m fairly certain someone who can close a sub 7:40 3k in 27 seconds for the last 200m can run a sub 1:52 800m

1:50 tops, which is what Rupp ran.

Jakobosa wrote:

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

1:50 tops, which is what Rupp ran.

Rupp ran 1:49, not crazy too think Nico could be in 1:49/3:34/7:30/12:58 type shape right now

Foooo wrote:

Jakobosa wrote:

Rupp ran 1:49, not crazy too think Nico could be in 1:49/3:34/7:30/12:58 type shape right now

Actually that is crazy. Nico cannot do that now

FutureOldHead wrote:

A lot of runners get typecast from an early age. I don't think its absurd to say he's got some miler potential, he's only like 22. NAU's and Mike Smith's priority has always been XC titles too, so his training is likely skewed to prop up that skill set and is leaving his shorter distance abilities a bit untapped. I say all that to say this though, even though his race was great, generally speaking people living at altitude full time usually look great from those conversions, relative to those who don't (which is why they actually exist, to make up for a changed variable). I'd say hes somewhere around 3:52 type of shape at sea level, but the biggest takeaway I had from that race + his win at BU is that he is going to be damn hard to beat in the 3k at nationals.

king999 wrote:

Nico Young in any other era would be a phenom

Can he realistically close a 5K in 2:22?

Grant Fisher can

Kessler has not yet turned 21 he ran 7:39 in no man's land at BU

He has run 3:32.x and 1:45.x

He will or would crush this guy at any distance up thru 5K in about a year

Jakobosa wrote:

I could see Nico running a 3:29 1500m in a few years.

TheRealScotty wrote:

Nico Young is not a miler. If Kessler cannot beat him at a mile, God help him. Kessler needs to get his own shop in order. Had a mediocre year last year. Hopefully he improves. If not, he's gonna have big problems with real milers once again. Certainly a talented guy.

Nico Young is a 3k/5k guy. Has already won in 7:37 in December. This 3:57.33 at 7000 feet is very impressive. He could probably go 3:52.0 running out of his event.