When talking about very young athletes ,I am always cautious about putting too many expectations on them. Quincy Wilson is the next rising high school star as he is only a sophomore. My concern as always is 2 things and especially for this young man is ,# 1. His exposure and in this instance to much exposure when it comes to his over racing at such a young age of 15 to 16 years old. He runs a full indoor as well as a full outdoor schedule already which includes some traveling as well as wear and tear on a young persons body . #2 This is were the Obea Moore comment in my post comes into my thought process. A 400m runner at the world class or even elite colliegate level has to have long levers. Most 400m runners are at least 6 feet to 6' 2" or even taller to be effective at the world class level. I know that there has been a small few that have produced at an elite level that were shorter than 6 feet. This young man still looks very young and hopefully will have a growth spurt over the next few years. If he does have a growth spurt and can be not overexposed( too many races) then he could very much be the male version of Sydney Mc and that would be very very exciting for US track and field. I hope his coaches and support group can plan his races out and not over race him during his HS years. Do you all agree with my early observation on this very very talented young person...
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I’m hoping English isn’t your first language.
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sprcoach 19.99 wrote:
When talking about very young athletes ,I am always cautious about putting too many expectations on them. Quincy Wilson is the next rising high school star as he is only a sophomore. My concern as always is 2 things and especially for this young man is ,# 1. His exposure and in this instance to much exposure when it comes to his over racing at such a young age of 15 to 16 years old. He runs a full indoor as well as a full outdoor schedule already which includes some traveling as well as wear and tear on a young persons body . #2 This is were the Obea Moore comment in my post comes into my thought process. A 400m runner at the world class or even elite colliegate level has to have long levers. Most 400m runners are at least 6 feet to 6' 2" or even taller to be effective at the world class level. I know that there has been a small few that have produced at an elite level that were shorter than 6 feet. This young man still looks very young and hopefully will have a growth spurt over the next few years. If he does have a growth spurt and can be not overexposed( too many races) then he could very much be the male version of Sydney Mc and that would be very very exciting for US track and field. I hope his coaches and support group can plan his races out and not over race him during his HS years. Do you all agree with my early observation on this very very talented young person...
I agree. I have watched him last year starting with Penn Relays. An amazing talent.
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I've learned not to speculate too much about the future of high school stars, rather just enjoy what they are accomplishing today. If they contend to make a US world/olympic team in an individual event, then I'll be interested. We are only a couple years removed from a HS junior 200m runner finishing 4th in the olympics and one year removed from a high school girl finishing 9th at worlds. Wilson has quite a bit of improving to do to get to those levels. His 1:01.27 500 is "only" worth something like a 46.5 Wake me up when he is at 44.5
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sprcoach 19.99 wrote:
A 400m runner at the world class or even elite colliegate level has to have long levers. Most 400m runners are at least 6 feet to 6' 2" or even taller to be effective at the world class level. I know that there has been a small few that have produced at an elite level that were shorter than 6 feet.
He’s taller than I was in 9th grade and I ended up being 5’10.
Also, I think his best event could eventually be the 800
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Better chance of being more of a Merrit type athlete than a Moore type athlete. First of all the young man is very intelligent and second the Bullis coach Joe Lee is not looking to cash in on the kid and not looking to rush his career.
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He’s an amazing talent. You’re right in saying overexposure wears an athlete down. I’m concerned about his form, seems a serious supination and not sure what can be done or if anything sb done.
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sprcoach 19.99 wrote:
When talking about very young athletes ,I am always cautious about putting too many expectations on them. Quincy Wilson is the next rising high school star as he is only a sophomore. My concern as always is 2 things and especially for this young man is ,# 1. His exposure and in this instance to much exposure when it comes to his over racing at such a young age of 15 to 16 years old. He runs a full indoor as well as a full outdoor schedule already which includes some traveling as well as wear and tear on a young persons body . #2 This is were the Obea Moore comment in my post comes into my thought process. A 400m runner at the world class or even elite colliegate level has to have long levers. Most 400m runners are at least 6 feet to 6' 2" or even taller to be effective at the world class level. I know that there has been a small few that have produced at an elite level that were shorter than 6 feet. This young man still looks very young and hopefully will have a growth spurt over the next few years. If he does have a growth spurt and can be not overexposed( too many races) then he could very much be the male version of Sydney Mc and that would be very very exciting for US track and field. I hope his coaches and support group can plan his races out and not over race him during his HS years. Do you all agree with my early observation on this very very talented young person...
Who Cares if he is or isn't?! It's most important that he creates his own path and isn't constantly comparing himself to others. I think we can agree that these situations generally aren't great for long term development.
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What can be done about his form. The 1st thing I would do is have him in the weight room and grab a couple 5lb dumbells and do arm swings with and without weight(s) for 30,40,50 seconds while looking in the mirror. Then after each set i would have him run in place in front of the mirror for the same time length. While running in place I would have him lift his knees while running in place and make sure his knees lift up to his belly button. Ive done this before with my athletes( one being Maurice Mitchell, 8 time state champ Mo., 3 time NCAA Champ FSU, 1 x Olympian) . Hope this simple exercise can help his form.....
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His 500 only translates to a 46.5? you’re aware he ran 45.8 as a freshman?
He’a not an unprecedented talent, but he seems to have some things going for him upstairs that others didn’t.
fyi - he’s running a leg of his teams 4x8 this weekend. I’ll be tuned in for that.
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Phantom Phan wrote:
His 500 only translates to a 46.5? you’re aware he ran 45.8 as a freshman?
He’a not an unprecedented talent, but he seems to have some things going for him upstairs that others didn’t.
fyi - he’s running a leg of his teams 4x8 this weekend. I’ll be tuned in for that.
Milesplit giving them too much of a shot? They have 1:53 guy Colin Abrams, so maybe he could muster a 1:52 flat with a running start, the 2:01 and 2:03 legs are 49 400m, 65 500m, 1:2/23 600m runners so can maybe get about 2:00/2:01 if they run it right due to lack of experience, and then the mystery in Quincy Wilsons ceiling. I'd say he would split 1:55/56 due to lack of training/experience. So technically capable of near it but I'd still predict being way off at around 7:48. It's not an easy record.
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Hopefully not the next Tyrese Cooper either. Stay out of trouble, kids.
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Agree. I’d be surprised if they challenge for the record. I’m more curious what Quincy does on his leg.
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sprcoach 19.99 wrote:
What can be done about his form. The 1st thing I would do is have him in the weight room and grab a couple 5lb dumbells and do arm swings with and without weight(s) for 30,40,50 seconds while looking in the mirror. Then after each set i would have him run in place in front of the mirror for the same time length. While running in place I would have him lift his knees while running in place and make sure his knees lift up to his belly button. Ive done this before with my athletes( one being Maurice Mitchell, 8 time state champ Mo., 3 time NCAA Champ FSU, 1 x Olympian) . Hope this simple exercise can help his form.....
The "high knees" myth has been long debunked. It is all about the posterior chain and good technique (no frontside, little to no backside action.) High knees usually results in excessive frontside action which is begging for a hamstring tear. Better to just teach them good technique to begin with.
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sprcoach 19.99 wrote:
What can be done about his form. The 1st thing I would do is have him in the weight room and grab a couple 5lb dumbells and do arm swings with and without weight(s) for 30,40,50 seconds while looking in the mirror. Then after each set i would have him run in place in front of the mirror for the same time length. While running in place I would have him lift his knees while running in place and make sure his knees lift up to his belly button. Ive done this before with my athletes( one being Maurice Mitchell, 8 time state champ Mo., 3 time NCAA Champ FSU, 1 x Olympian) . Hope this simple exercise can help his form.....
And by the way, I didn't down vote you. ;-)
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UkrainianHunk wrote:
Phantom Phan wrote:
His 500 only translates to a 46.5? you’re aware he ran 45.8 as a freshman?
He’a not an unprecedented talent, but he seems to have some things going for him upstairs that others didn’t.
fyi - he’s running a leg of his teams 4x8 this weekend. I’ll be tuned in for that.
Milesplit giving them too much of a shot? They have 1:53 guy Colin Abrams, so maybe he could muster a 1:52 flat with a running start, the 2:01 and 2:03 legs are 49 400m, 65 500m, 1:2/23 600m runners so can maybe get about 2:00/2:01 if they run it right due to lack of experience, and then the mystery in Quincy Wilsons ceiling. I'd say he would split 1:55/56 due to lack of training/experience. So technically capable of near it but I'd still predict being way off at around 7:48. It's not an easy record.
I like his chances of being more like a 1:53 guy but that still leaves a ton of work. Those slow legs need to be running 1:56s. On one hand they are fast enough. On the other that’s a still a lot of improvement. And obviously the really hard part is to get 4 people to execute on the same day when people are likely to be time trialing more than racing.
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Yeah, I think Abrams and Wilson can run 1:52ish and maybe faster. I've been alive the past fifteen months so I'm not ruling out Quincy Wilson doing something amazing. But I don't think those other two legs are getting to 1:55-6 this weekend. I'd love to see them get close and then give it another shot in March, but I have no idea whether training all four of those guys to run fast 800m in the early spring is on their team's agenda. Bullis does a pretty good job of negotiating the tension between running really fast early in the winter and keeping kids healthy into the early summer. In the past, that hasn't involved pulling a lot of guys up to 800m but this personnel is maybe shaped a little differently so I guess we'll see?
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I went to high school down the street from Obea and was one year behind him. I saw many of his amazing performances at Arcadia and local invites. Guy was unreal. Obea did get injured but his problems were off the track. Hopefully Quincy has a better support network.
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1:54+1:49+1:58+1:59=7:40.
They actually have a good deal of leeway here to still get the record, though if they're running without equivalent competition, it'll be tough to get that motivation. A 45.8 guy who has run 1:17.8 for 600m should be able to run sub-1:50.
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Why is this even necessary to bring up?
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