Looks like CJ went down to Mexicali and ran a casual 2:11:10 solo effort this morning. That’s now 3 marathons under 2:12 in roughly the last month and he’s under the provisional Olympic standard.
this guy is such an animal the way he cranks out marathons and big workouts but he seems stuck on 2:10 to 2:11. He does seem like he has the potential to spring an upset at the trials since he’s not the type who needs everything perfect on race day and just grinds things out.
What he does flies in the face of conventional marathon wisdom. Would he run faster marathons if he trained and raced more conventionally, or does his unconventional approach maximize his potential ?
He's the American Yuki kawauchi
I just started listening to a podcast interview of CJ recorded after his CIM victory when I was driving around this morning. I was only about ten minutes in when I had to stop listening but CJ has not mentioned that he had another marathon lined up.
He did say that he was fresh because he had not started heavy training for the trials and he has been busy at work and just had a second kid.
But...but...Seth James DeMoor, noted marathon training and racing expert, indicated that the course used for last week's marathon plus the humid weather TOTALLY DESTROYED all of the runners and that the CIM organizers should be ashamed of this fact.
Congrats, CJ! You are becoming America's Yuki.
It's not good enough to win anything of note. Might as well run 3:11.
Plenty of thons won in 2:11 where prize for winner is 10-25k
I think CJ was aiming for just under the standard at both CIM and then here in Mexico. His training hasn’t been super consistent and I think he did something to his hamstring a couple of months back.
It’s pretty crazy he can consistently crank out 2:10-2:11 performances on erratic training. I think if Orlando is tactical and slow he definitely can stand a good chance. He runs quite well in the heat/humidity.
Mary Akor
chuckle wrote:
Mary Akor
Last year she was running under the name Mary Beasely. Won the Detroit Free Press Marathon in 2:42 (at age 46):
Kea wrote:
I think CJ was aiming for just under the standard at both CIM and then here in Mexico. His training hasn’t been super consistent and I think he did something to his hamstring a couple of months back.
It’s pretty crazy he can consistently crank out 2:10-2:11 performances on erratic training. I think if Orlando is tactical and slow he definitely can stand a good chance. He runs quite well in the heat/humidity.
Although this performance allows him to make the team if it is a slow race, I think the race will not be slow and I would like to see CJ go with the leaders and finally get the 2:08 effort that he feels he is capable of.
I have a question - and hopefully someone has an answer. When was the last time an American man won three marathons in a calendar year with all 2:12 performances? (CJ did it in 9 weeks.)
Dude needs to run a half, he's stagnated training for all these marathons. He can run 3 2:11 marathons but cant break 2:10. If he could he would have done it at CIM, cant say he was holding back because he was dropped during that race and had to slowly come back. 2:09 guys don't get dropped in 2:11 races.
They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Rather than continue running these solo efforts, why doesn’t he enter a more competitive race with 2:08-2:10 guys who can pull him to a faster time?
chuckle wrote:
Mary Akor
Former doper, races in MX cause not testing
Kiptum cheated wrote:
It's not good enough to win anything of note. Might as well run 3:11.
Yup. There's loads of money to be won with 3:11 marathons.
Do you think it’s possible he thought his CIM effort counted as the Olympic B standard (or whatever it’s called) and then realized it didn’t count and ran this race? Big oversight on his part. Potentially killed any opportunity at sniffing the top 3 in Orlando.
Looks like he hasn’t even run a half marathon since 2018. No matter what race he runs, he ends up with a 2:10 or 2:11. No idea what running 2:11 in back to back weekends means, but it has to mean something.
How does he do it wrote:
Looks like he hasn’t even run a half marathon since 2018. No matter what race he runs, he ends up with a 2:10 or 2:11. No idea what running 2:11 in back to back weekends means, but it has to mean something.
I'd love to do it.
Some years ago she was popped for doping.
2:41 at 47 is a bit suspicious. I could be wrong but I think that her PR (clean or not?) was arounfd 2:33?
