NYRR increasing membership fees by 50-70%

The reason for the membership price increases is because the NYRR executive want big raises from what they are currently paid:

Kerin Hempel (Ceo/Board Member) $544,046

Jeanmarie Cooney (Svp Of Finance/Asst. Treasurer) $281,516

Erica Edwards O'neal Svp (Culture, Diversity, Equity & Inc.) $256,582

James Heim Former Svp Events (Race Dir. Of Mar. Thru Mar 2021) $256,029

Jeffery Carnevale (Svp, It & Information Officer) $246,603

Christine Burke Svp (Strategic Partnerships & Runner Prod.) $243,729

Jae Lee Vp General (Counsel & Asst Secretary) $237,938

Ted Metellus Vp Edp (Race Dir. Of Tcs Nyc Marathon) $231,687

Bruno Charles Garcia (Vp, Marketing & Communications) $227,427

Michael Capiraso (Former Ceo/Board Member) $198,000

Ummm, those salaries sound surprisingly low for NYC

But whatever, hopefully it drives people to not renew and ultimately makes it easier to sign up for races. It's ridiculous that every single race INTO APRIL is already sold out.

Still doesn't add up to what Max S., makes.

Why are you including Capiraso? Wasn't he part of the old competent regime that got fired a few years back?

Bidenomics

^^^Found the guy that eats caviar for breakfast, lunch, and dinner

Capiraso was still being paid by the NYRR as of the most recent tax filing

What does membership give you? how much are their typical races?

and yes, I am too lazy to look this up.

$25 for a typical race if you are a member
so the cost per race depends on how many races you amortize the $60 over.

in a time of $50 5ks…this isn’t bad honestl.

the bigger problem with NYRR is that after huge staff turnover they have lost touch with the clubs and competitive runners. It is a poorly run recreational race organizer now, with some good community outreach events.

Really a shame that competitive running doesn't have a big supporter like it used to in NYRR.

It started going downhill way before that happened; the decline started about 2002 or do.

What was a NYC friendly running club turned into the usual corporate greedy business. Mary Wittenberg had a lot to do with that. Once the club (NYRRC back then) started down that path, there was no turning back and that's how it got to be like it is today.

When the big dollars start to flow, not much good can follow.

yeah nah I'll disagree. The Mary years were the golden years for competitive running in NYC. NYRR cared about us - funded clubs, knew us, club council was an actual useful thing, there were several very strong clubs...then they got rid of mary, the scandal happened, then covid...they restaffed but lost all that institutional knowledge. Now they really don't care about the competitive clubs...it's 9+1 all day and all night, running the whole show.

NYAC is gone, several other competitive teams are gone, clubs are formed just to get late entries to the marathon and NYC Half, you have to sign up 5 months in advance for races..no one is running the ship.

Honest question - why should they?

I agree with your take on how the deterioration happened, but the focus on the ‘thon is by design, not an accident. The general public is obsessed with 9 + 1, selling out minor races 4-6 months in advance, so NYRR is like, F it, we’re raising prices.

They are treating it as a business and the majority of their customers just want one thing: to run the TCS marathon, and they don’t care if they have to pay $1000 to jog and not race those 9 events as long as in November they can get to the start line in Staten Island.

Sad, but it’s reality.

You forgot all of the huge screwups as of late- the short courses, the near miss with the bus, etc.

Why shouldn't they?

What a planet we live on. The "cultural, diversity, equity and inclusion" svp makes more money than the senior IT & information, the general counsel/CLO, and the svp of marketing and communications???? I understand it is necessary in this day and age, but how on earth can that be more important than marketing, legal or IT?

It’s the mid packers that pay the bills. No one cares about professional runners much less NYC Sub Elites. Sorry.

this is the question yeah. I'd guess 90%+ of NYRR's customer base are not competitive athletes, on clubs, training to go faster, etc. The clubs recognize this.

All I can say is that NYRR has a responsibility to tend to the competitive teams. No, they don't need us, and yes we need them. But I'd say it's the same reason car companies lose billions racing...you need to tend to the bleeding edge if you want to be a relevant organization and keep developing. And being associated with elites raises your own image.

And this running boom will end eventually, fields will shrink and NYRR will be grateful to have steady customers from the clubs.

And just in a historical sense...an org like NYRR has a responsibility to the racers. They just do.