Tennessee is getting tons of high level middle-distance and distance recruits. Many on these boards have mentioned that this is because Tennessee is spending big money on NIL deals.
What are the actual financial figures for these signings? Are numbers guaranteed at commitment, or is it a tiered system as athletes improve?
Probably not much but enough - they're recruiting 10+ people per class and it's not like a 5 flat girl is getting a full, but she could get a near full w/ a partial, possible financial, or a 'fake' (i.e. one nobody other than an athlete would get) merit scholarship.
And most of them don't have a significant social media following - it'd basically be the 'bags of cash' for football players except far less and now above the table.
Probably not much but enough - they're recruiting 10+ people per class and it's not like a 5 flat girl is getting a full, but she could get a near full w/ a partial, possible financial, or a 'fake' (i.e. one nobody other than an athlete would get) merit scholarship.
And most of them don't have a significant social media following - it'd basically be the 'bags of cash' for football players except far less and now above the table.
You don’t understand NIL and scholarships. A athlete getting a NIL deal is completely different the NIL paying for school
Duane Ross and Carlson both have a lot of money that they can use to give to student athletes as financial aid without having to use real scholarships. Mostly donations from alumni. There's an instagram account for it it's not a secret.
UT and Carlson is completely gaming the system. All these recruits are promised monies, but they have to take summer school, are limited on credits, must eat athlete meals and other little short cuts to an already low price tag. But with that said, he did an incredible job with the women's team. Men underperformed for sure, but doesn't matter because he is a master recruiter on transfer portal. His NLI budget is over 12.6 scholarships and the track team manages the "normal" 12.6
Can someone tell me how a collective - which this and many football teams - appear to be doing, isn't against NCAA rules?
These kids aren't being paid 25k as their name, image or likeness is worth that. They are being paid it because it's worth it for the boosters for the xc team to be decent. It has nothing to do with NIL and should be banned in all sports.
Can someone tell me how a collective - which this and many football teams - appear to be doing, isn't against NCAA rules?
These kids aren't being paid 25k as their name, image or likeness is worth that. They are being paid it because it's worth it for the boosters for the xc team to be decent. It has nothing to do with NIL and should be banned in all sports.
The simple answer is that SCOTUS told the NCAA that they couldn't tell a student athlete that they can't make money so as a result there are no rules that the NCAA can or is willing to try to enforce.
To resolve this issue there will have to be legislation... which at this point seems unlikely.
Can someone tell me how a collective - which this and many football teams - appear to be doing, isn't against NCAA rules?
These kids aren't being paid 25k as their name, image or likeness is worth that. They are being paid it because it's worth it for the boosters for the xc team to be decent. It has nothing to do with NIL and should be banned in all sports.
The simple answer is that SCOTUS told the NCAA that they couldn't tell a student athlete that they can't make money so as a result there are no rules that the NCAA can or is willing to try to enforce.
To resolve this issue there will have to be legislation... which at this point seems unlikely.
Cross Country and track will be dominated by schools willing to pay NIL. In 3 years time you won’t win a championship at a college that’s doesn’t pay NIL money!
The simple answer is that SCOTUS told the NCAA that they couldn't tell a student athlete that they can't make money so as a result there are no rules that the NCAA can or is willing to try to enforce.
To resolve this issue there will have to be legislation... which at this point seems unlikely.
Cross Country and track will be dominated by schools willing to pay NIL. In 3 years time you won’t win a championship at a college that’s doesn’t pay NIL money!
Agreed. It essentially allows extra scholarships and pay for play (or race in this case)... it will happen in all sports
Can someone tell me how a collective - which this and many football teams - appear to be doing, isn't against NCAA rules?
These kids aren't being paid 25k as their name, image or likeness is worth that. They are being paid it because it's worth it for the boosters for the xc team to be decent. It has nothing to do with NIL and should be banned in all sports.
Even at BYU, every female athlete gets $6k annually from 1 donor's nil.
It's almost impossible to police, as the 'bag of money' contract can be written up to look like an nil. If the donor makes their contractual payment, but never requires the athlete to fulfill their side of the deal, it's pure cash.
The nil is actually a plus for donors. Instead of paying personal cash, or from a slush fund, booster payments are now a fully deductible marketing expense.
Can someone tell me how a collective - which this and many football teams - appear to be doing, isn't against NCAA rules?
These kids aren't being paid 25k as their name, image or likeness is worth that. They are being paid it because it's worth it for the boosters for the xc team to be decent. It has nothing to do with NIL and should be banned in all sports.
There are no rules for NIL right now, its the Wild West. A good Quarterback costs $2+ million in the transfer portal, you pretty much have to re-recruit your own players every offseason.
People are lucky Nike doesn't seem to care about running anymore, otherwise the top 10 distance runners would all be running for Oregon and getting paid NIL $ directly from Nike.
Can a university use Alston Awards to auto pay for college related expenses?
Essentially, the university pays itself by giving every student-athlete, regardless of scholarship or non-scholarship status, a $5980 annual discount or credit. Between these awards, normal athletic aid, and any federal aid that an athlete qualifies for, schools could stockpile talent in excess of the NCAA limits making those scholarship limits a joke. This could be a boon to state schools in places offering lower cost tuition.
Knoxville, a long with many other cities in the SEC, lives and breathes for their university's sports teams. Every business and every prominent person wants to be part of the action. The money just rolls into the athletic department.
NIL is the wild west. Teams of 7 professional runners will be winning NCAA xc soon if it isn't already happening. I'm surprised no one has challenged the ncaa on eligibility rules to find a way to stay enrolled and keep collecting nil into their 30s. There are a lot more opportunities to stand out as a college athlete than as a subelite distance runner.
There are no rules for NIL right now, its the Wild West. A good Quarterback costs $2+ million in the transfer portal, you pretty much have to re-recruit your own players every offseason.
Peopleare lucky Nike doesn't seem to care about running anymore, otherwise the top 10 distance runners would all be running for Oregon and gettingpaid NIL $ directly from Nike.
They seem to care about high school track though, creating Nike elite to give NIL to 40 top high school athletes. Will be interesting to track how many stay with Nike thru college into pro.
Even Touhy's pro move will be interesting to see if she stays with NIL partner adidas.
Knoxville, a long with many other cities in the SEC, lives and breathes for their university's sports teams. Every business and every prominent person wants to be part of the action. The money just rolls into the athletic department.
For cross country or track? I am suspect. Better off dropping 200k to get a 3rd string cornerback.
Pretty much all the NIL (except maybe the ones from large companies) is a total scam. But we knew that going it. the few legit cases (nobody is paying that gymnast for athletic performance) are outweighed by the pay to play(I.e every lineman in the country getting cash).
The president of UT is a huge track/distance fan who has donated millions to the track program. I suspect he makes sure the track athletes get their share of the money pie. He could even be doing their NIL money himself through one of his companies such as the Knoxville AA baseball team.
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