Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
Different sports in different countries. Shelby received hundreds of thousands of dollars, set ARs, won national championships and ran in the WC and Olympics. The ultra runner received a medal and a trophy.
Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
No need to compare to Shelby. Of course the ultrarunner should have gotten a much longer ban. Doesn't mean Houlihan's wasn't fair.
Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
you are completely delusional to think someone who was taking PEDS should have a shorter ban than someone taking a car in a race
“I would never purposefully cheat and this was not a target race, but I don’t want to make excuses,” she said.spots
Just give her a lifetime ban for something that ridiculously dumb. Oh, I was jet lagged and hopped in a car on accident.
If Shelby did cheat, her actions resulted in less salary to other athletes, stolen ARs from someone else(s) and spots on international teams. The British lady’s actions did not harm others. If she deserves a lifetime ban, Shelby should receive 4 lifetime bans.
Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
Shelby would've gotten 3 years if she'd admitted fault like this ultrarunner did. So it would be 3 years. We also don't know if it was ingested via the burrito that was simply a long shot theory proposed after they couldn't find anything more plausible. Should the athlete here have gotten more than a year? Probably. But I don't think that means Shelby should've gotten fewer than 3 years. Look at the many athletes banned for nandrolone, and will see how many (if any) outside of Shelby have gotten your sympathy. Or do you regard them as dopers, and their bans good for the sport as people consistent on their positions do.
Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
that should easily be a lifetime ban. no questions asked.
doping offenses are not lifetime for multiple reasons, including:
a) the tests are not a perfect science
b) i think deep down everybody knows that drug cheating is rampant, and many users are just trying to level the playing field.
hopping into a car during a race is such egregious cheating that is objectively verifiable and in no way is leveling a playing field. it's such a low and indefensible form of cheating. the only reason i can see that it's not a lifetime ban is that you assume somebody who would do it is mentally ill.
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Can we at least get equal justice under the law? Or should we admit the rest of the world loves to take Americans down as they know we are the #1 power. I get it. I do it in my normal life as well - I hate the Yankees but it's not rationale to treat them worse than say the Royals.
Shelby thinks she's innocent because most of the elites don't get popped for the PEDs they take. She feels that she was a victim because she knows she should have gotten away with cheating like most elites. That's a problem.
We also don't know if it was ingested via the burrito
Trolling? I thought by now pretty much everyone realized that it was not in the burrito (she ordered beef, it's too rare to have uncastrated boar in pork, there was too much nandro found for stomach offal even if uncastrated, and last but not least it was synthetic nandro). Even Tygart admitted that.
We also don't know if it was ingested via the burrito
Trolling? I thought by now pretty much everyone realized that it was not in the burrito (she ordered beef, it's too rare to have uncastrated boar in pork, there was too much nandro found for stomach offal even if uncastrated, and last but not least it was synthetic nandro). Even Tygart admitted that.
Correct. Even Shelby's people admitted the burrito story was a best guess, after they claimed they didn't find any of her "supplements" to be contaminated. After that was shown to be practically impossible, they had no other explanation. Just deny, deny and claim the pretty white girl would never cheat.
Trolling? I thought by now pretty much everyone realized that it was not in the burrito (she ordered beef, it's too rare to have uncastrated boar in pork, there was too much nandro found for stomach offal even if uncastrated, and last but not least it was synthetic nandro). Even Tygart admitted that.
I mean I certainly don't think it was. By phrasing as "don't know" I didn't mean there was a strong possibility it was. Just meant that the OP is wrong to accept her explanation that as you note was debunked as highly implausible. Highly implausible doesn't mean 100% didn't happen, but it means certainly nobody should have a thread started where they recite it as fact.
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