Literally everyone at top leval,and many second tiers are on drugs no matter what country they come from.Its more noticeable in kenya because theres so many of them.Its great that kenyans are being caught,and ethiopians are starting to be,but i say go after richer countries with sophisticated doping regimes as well.
Literally everyone at top leval,and many second tiers are on drugs no matter what country they come from.Its more noticeable in kenya because theres so many of them.Its great that kenyans are being caught,and ethiopians are starting to be,but i say go after richer countries with sophisticated doping regimes as well.
^This guy literally believes in Flat Earth theory.
Coevett you don’t want clean sport. You want white sport. Shame on you. Amazing this site has tolerated your racism.
OK, so I've been arguing here since something like 2016 that the reason for Kenyan success has been doping rather than 'natural born running genes', and since then there have been over 300 Kenyan busts, including Olympic champions and world record holders, and over 50 more today announced, but your take is that I'm just a racist.
This is the equivalent of you going on to StormFront, claiming that the reason why whites dominate Harvard admissions is because of cheating and favoritism rather than any supposed 'superior IQ' of white people, and then over the next ten years it emerges there has been rampant cheating and favoritism benefitting white students at the expense of black candidates, and still the Stormfront NAZIs accuse YOU of being an anti-white racist.
Nothing to see here. Over 40 of those will be no-name athletes who never made the national team, like Ekiru, and the rest only won a bronze at best like Kipruto.
I challenge you to name a single Kenyan above Kipruto's level who was banned this year!
This proves that the top Kenyans are clean, and doping doesn't work.
Stock up on the popcorn. Is this entertaining to you?
For the people who have known with absolute certainty that Kenya was dirty from top to bottom for decades, of course this is entertaining.
Why on earth wouldn't it be?
Exactly. It's bitter sweet of course, because there's also the knowledge that Kenya got away with it for decades and robbed who knows how many clean runners out of medals, records, places in finals, sponsorship, appearance fees...
OK, so I've been arguing here since something like 2016 that the reason for Kenyan success has been doping rather than 'natural born running genes', and since then there have been over 300 Kenyan busts, including Olympic champions and world record holders, and over 50 more today announced, but your take is that I'm just a racist.
This is the equivalent of you going on to StormFront, claiming that the reason why whites dominate Harvard admissions is because of cheating and favoritism rather than any supposed 'superior IQ' of white people, and then over the next ten years it emerges there has been rampant cheating and favoritism benefitting white students at the expense of black candidates, and still the Stormfront NAZIs accuse YOU of being an anti-white racist.
You have been arguing a false dilemma -- that we must choose between doping and genes as an explanation, without considering environmental factors like being born and raised at a high altitude "sweet spot", and growing up to be 10-20 pounds lighter than other national class athletes.
Maybe you have cause and effect backwards: the high number of talented athletes in Kenya results in proportionally more athletes subject to more tests, and proportionally more busts.
In America's War on Drugs, blacks and minorities are disproportionally imprisoned, leading some to conclude that these minorities are inherently more prone to crime, rather than being treated differently by law enforcement and the judicial system.
Don't forget: this is about ADAK busts, not AIU. ADAK hasn't busted a single athlete of Jepchirchir's calibre yet - that's always AIU (Kipruto, Kiptum, Kipsang and so on and so on).
Yes, we know Kenyans don't get injured. Wightman can be injured, Jakob can have COVID; Kenyans pull out of a big race = doping. But you're not racist. Sure.
If it was announced that fifty Brits had been busted, EVERYBODY would any injured Brit had been busted.
There was a Kenyan just a month or two ago who pulled out of a big road race because of 'injruy' and then it was revealed she had been busted. Pulling out of the New York marathon because you get injured in your last training session is a bit suspicious when fifty Kenyan marathoners and road runners are about to be revealed as having been suspended.
Coevett you don’t want clean sport. You want white sport. Shame on you. Amazing this site has tolerated your racism.
OK, so I've been arguing here since something like 2016 that the reason for Kenyan success has been doping rather than 'natural born running genes',
The main reason for Kenyan success is not doping, anyone who follows athletics just a little bit knows this.
Your only alternative ('natural born running genes') is just one of many reasons for their success. Those reasons are well known since decades: hard training, running since childhood, nutrition, easy lifestyle, altitude, tradition, financial incentives and so on.
OK, so I've been arguing here since something like 2016 that the reason for Kenyan success has been doping rather than 'natural born running genes', and since then there have been over 300 Kenyan busts, including Olympic champions and world record holders, and over 50 more today announced, but your take is that I'm just a racist.
This is the equivalent of you going on to StormFront, claiming that the reason why whites dominate Harvard admissions is because of cheating and favoritism rather than any supposed 'superior IQ' of white people, and then over the next ten years it emerges there has been rampant cheating and favoritism benefitting white students at the expense of black candidates, and still the Stormfront NAZIs accuse YOU of being an anti-white racist.
You have been arguing a false dilemma -- that we must choose between doping and genes as an explanation, without considering environmental factors like being born and raised at a high altitude "sweet spot", and growing up to be 10-20 pounds lighter than other national class athletes.
Maybe you have cause and effect backwards: the high number of talented athletes in Kenya results in proportionally more athletes subject to more tests, and proportionally more busts.
In America's War on Drugs, blacks and minorities are disproportionally imprisoned, leading some to conclude that these minorities are inherently more prone to crime, rather than being treated differently by law enforcement and the judicial system.
Your argument amounts to little more than this: Kenyans don't dope more than anyone else, they are simply picked on more than anyone else.
However the reason they are picked on more by antidoping is they dope more than just about everybody else. That's the bit you don't get - and don't want to get.
It's like convictions for organised crime. There will be more because law enforcement will focus on it because it's a serious problem. And that's Kenyan doping - a serious problem.
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OK, so I've been arguing here since something like 2016 that the reason for Kenyan success has been doping rather than 'natural born running genes',
The main reason for Kenyan success is not doping, anyone who follows athletics just a little bit knows this.
Your only alternative ('natural born running genes') is just one of many reasons for their success. Those reasons are well known since decades: hard training, running since childhood, nutrition, easy lifestyle, altitude, tradition, financial incentives and so on.
Yes, we know Kenyans don't get injured. Wightman can be injured, Jakob can have COVID; Kenyans pull out of a big race = doping. But you're not racist. Sure.
If 50 Norwegians or Brits were being busted and he wasn't admitting that's just like the Kenyans then that could be "racist". But where are all the Norwegian and Brit doping busts?