Has this guy even run an ultra before?
People have no idea how mediocre this is. Probably about 1/2 of 2:10 marathoners could beat this with a few 3 hour training runs in their regular program. That said, good for him.
World Record or "World Best"
It's a trail, I don't think you can measure and ratify a "world record" for a road 50 miler.
5:46 pace, came across 26.5 @ 2:28.43. Beats Walmseys old record of 4:50.07. 2:16 marathon prep, twice. Will be running marathon trials. Had to drove to Indiana already to be tested by USADA
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Tunnel Hill is a certified road race.
They should try it then.
Ok, it's not the 1500m WR, but the guy has still achieved something pretty cool for a sub-elite runner. I don't get why there's any negativity about this. Good for him, he's beaten a record that was held by a highly respected pro ultra runner
Looks like his college PR was 4:26 in the mile and his best xc race was a 19th-place finish at the NCAA Midwest Regional, with a 10k t
At Minnestoa, it appears that he was a solid runner, but certainly not national class, and absolutely not world class.
He finished 61st at the 2020 trials (out of 175 finishers and there were a bunch of DNFs) in
2:20:40. Walmsley was 22nd in 2:15:05.
The only other ultra I can find is his 6th place finish at the USATF National 50K Road Championship in 2021.
Given the large number of Japanese marathon runners under 2:10, 42 at the Lake Biwa marathon in 2022 alone, I'm curious how many of them have tried to race the ultra distances.
Nao Kazami, who used to have the more competitive 100km world record of 6:09.14, was only a 2:17 marathon runner.
Aleksandr Sorokin, reportedly only has a 2:25 marathon PR, although he managed 5:53 pace for 62 miles when he ran 6:03.53 in a 100k in May.
There’s no negativity except for the one turd. And we know, there’s always a turd, no matter what the performance. Just the way it is. Great job for this kid!
There's no real money in it which is why they dont.
You don't think he's going get a good sponsorship from this run? Something like this is probably worth more now than doing a 2:10 marathon to sponsors.
How much money is in running 2:10 Marathons?
I give huge respect to this run. The course is flat, but it's packed gravel and not as fast as a road. And there's about 5 miles of hilly terrain in there. Lawrence beat the old record---held by Zack Beavin, a terrific runner with an OTQ---by 15 minutes. And he did it entirely on his own. Lawrence bolted out from the parking lot at the start and had no one with him the entire way. He was just running by himself in the woods of southern Illinois. Maybe he didn't have a great collegiate career; but I'd take that as inspiration about a guy finding his race and his day. Props to Charlie. I hope he gets a real sponsorship from this.
Also props to Elov Olsson, who ran 11:26 for 100 miles on the course, which is 6:52 pace and which he did like a metronome. And Polina Hodnette and Alison Mercer, who both got top-10 all-time women's times yesterday.
I got crushed by the course and ended up 40 minutes off my goal. But those folks nailed it.
I think you have no idea how difficult a sub 6 minute mile even is. I was a 4:01 miler and a 29:05 10,000m runner who use to think anyone can run if they just trained. A few injuries, some surgeries now at 41 I'm on the stairmaster for cardio. I am also writing this from a hospital bed after experiencing septic shock the other day. Running is not an easy sport and a sub 5hour 50 miler is not something any 2:10 marathoner can do. This runner is 1 in a 100 million and so is Walmsley. Also keep in mind there are some 400 high hurdles that can Crack a 4 minute mile that does not mean they can run a sub 30 10,000m.
This is correct. It’s exactly what I’d expect for a 2:16 guy. Ultras are deeply underdeveloped, there’s no reason for the elites to jump to an ultra.