Andrew Butchart: 2 marathon attempts, 2 DNF's

He was a pacemaker in london.

dropped out of NY due to stomach problems

Not sure that Butchart's style is optimal for marathons.

Couldn’t happen to a bigger POS. Actually, it’s hard to tell whether he or his wife are more insufferable. Karma has no bias, and never forgets.

Talk about having an axe to grind. Get over it.

Never really liked the bloke nor his wife but aside from that, he was never world class at any level bar parkrun and I think that shows what sort of an attention seeking tiny little man he is.

2:12 at best but if there's one UK runner post mo who I think would dope to get better....

6th in the Olympics qualifies for me.

What colour medal is that???

Never world class? He was 6th in the 2016 Olympic 5k and 8th in the 2017 World Champs 5k.

7:35, 13:06 and 27:36 PBs. You're wrong, he has been world class. He still is elite.

2x Olympian

There's no question he's world class.

Not to get off topic but why the hate, especially including his wife? What's that be about?

I saw him at half way point at NYCM. He already fell way off the leaders and did not look good. Sweating and laboring.

He always looks like he's laboring. This guy is not a marathoner.

wats the context to this

talking about this one in the above post ^^

Probably because Andy and Lynsey are Scottish.

I was watching him in the lead pack early on at NYC and was struck by how different his body type is from that of almost any world-class marathoner. In a marathon pack, he looks like a decathlete with that upper-body musculature.

If you can fit all the dudes that beat you at the Olympics in a Toyota Camry, you're 100% world class.

Josh Kerr, Laura Muir and Jemma Reekie are Scottish are they hated too?

specifically 13:06 back before everyone started running 12:5X. He ran 13:09, 13:07 & 13:06 - that was very competitive for the time, sure he didn't have the closing speed to win anything but that + his OLY/WC placings show he was world class

To OP - he recently did a podcast with Trackstaa where he talks about this all. After the above times he had a couple moves in coaches which didn't work out and lost a chunk of [career]time to injuries and trying different training. Now he's coming back fit to competition and the world has moved on at 5K etc, so I think it's obvious between that + his age (32yo) & new parenthood, that he moves up to try the Marathon now before he calls time on his career, because it's not like he's going to start dropping 27:00 to qualify for Paris now and he may be at a point where he is more interested in road money

I doubt it's just the comment she made about Caster Semenya, but Lynsey has always had cutting things to say/complaints/moaning about other competitors and a million excuses for her performances that ultimately 'weren't her fault' - she has never come across very pleasant

Andy received a ban from British Athletics for comments he made in an interview including talking about faking covid tests to get around for competitions and slagging off UKA, now ironically he has just come back from a ban a month ago, does a podcast with Trackstaa and in it slates British Athletics saying loads of people need to be gotten rid of. That notwithstanding, I'll be honest I don't know of much else unsavoury AB has done, although interestingly I was in Kenya last week and had a conversation with an elite European 5000m athlete who is totally convinced AB has been doping, but I don't know any more details on that tbh