Helio Gomes, Portugal, 38 years old, improved from 1:04:27 to 1:02:07 in this race.
38 year old Helio Gomes, Portugal , destroys his PB 1:04:27, with 1:02:07 in Valencia
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Helio Gomes, was a middle distance guy from late 90's to early 2000's, with good flat speed, 50, 1:49, 3:37.
It makes sense that with time, he can develop into a good half runner.
28:41/2:15.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Helio Gomes, Portugal, 38 years old, improved from 1:04:27 to 1:02:07 in this race.
Dope race!
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Ghost1 wrote:
Helio Gomes, was a middle distance guy from late 90's to early 2000's, with good flat speed, 50, 1:49, 3:37.
It makes sense that with time, he can develop into a good half runner.
28:41/2:15.
Valencia is like a legal doped course, just like Gydnia, Poland, in 2020, where the majority of the field went through 10km at their pb speed and held on.
This happens on the road, but rarely on the track.
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Helio Gomes, received a doping suspension in 2017, between 2-4 years. He was caught, and has put that doping infraction behind him.
Not sure how long he served? Hopefully mother time has taught him to run clean these days.
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ghost, I always find myself unsure whether to be impressed by your optimism or exasperated by it.
Here, have a convicted doper, returning from a ban to run a huge PB and you celebrate it like it's some sort of collective success story for us all to enjoy.
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realistic optimism wrote:
ghost, I always find myself unsure whether to be impressed by your optimism or exasperated by it.
Here, have a convicted doper, returning from a ban to run a huge PB and you celebrate it like it's some sort of collective success story for us all to enjoy.
Funny when you put it like that!
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realistic optimism wrote:
ghost, I always find myself unsure whether to be impressed by your optimism or exasperated by it.
Here, have a convicted doper, returning from a ban to run a huge PB and you celebrate it like it's some sort of collective success story for us all to enjoy.
Sir, just like cycling, I think many runners have crossed the line, but that merely confirms that many/most runners are on an even playing field. Gomes doped, came clean when caught, served his time and moved on. In Latin society there is little of the vilification present in Anglo Saxon cultures. Had Gomes been a Brit or American, unlikely he would have ever returned.
I don't approve his doping past, but let's be realistic and acknowledge that to run at a very high level, runners will always be close to that red line, legal or not, just like Rupp was close to the red line but apparently never crossed that line.
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Accordingly Gomes only served 2 years following his EPO conviction, in July 2017, in Belgium, where he won a 3000 in 7:51. He was reinstated in 2019, July. Portugal track and field then offered Gomes full support to prepare Tokyo 2020, which became 2021.
His club, Sporting Lisbon, stood by him for the entire 2 years, supporting him psychologically, and presumably financially.
Kudos to Portugal Atletismo for giving this runner a second chance.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Helio Gomes, received a doping suspension in 2017, between 2-4 years. He was caught, and has put that doping infraction behind him.
Not sure how long he served? Hopefully mother time has taught him to run clean these days.
I have always found it hard to believe that someone who has been caught doping, AND suspended, would not be likrly to do it again (and by the way the manner in which athletes are doping is more sophisticated -harder to detect - today than it was in 2017...)
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OXYRUNR wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
Helio Gomes, received a doping suspension in 2017, between 2-4 years. He was caught, and has put that doping infraction behind him.
Not sure how long he served? Hopefully mother time has taught him to run clean these days.
I have always found it hard to believe that someone who has been caught doping, AND suspended, would not be likrly to do it again (and by the way the manner in which athletes are doping is more sophisticated -harder to detect - today than it was in 2017...)
I think it depends on the person- some may be very paranoid about getting caught again.
They deserve a second chance and maybe should be under more scrutiny if they're making money and ranked high.
After that- life time ban.
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Helio Gomes, 1.91/73 kg (6.3/161), a true giant in distance running. More like a basketball player, aside from his slimness.
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Ghost1 wrote:
realistic optimism wrote:
ghost, I always find myself unsure whether to be impressed by your optimism or exasperated by it.
Here, have a convicted doper, returning from a ban to run a huge PB and you celebrate it like it's some sort of collective success story for us all to enjoy.
Sir, just like cycling, I think many runners have crossed the line, but that merely confirms that many/most runners are on an even playing field. Gomes doped, came clean when caught, served his time and moved on. In Latin society there is little of the vilification present in Anglo Saxon cultures. Had Gomes been a Brit or American, unlikely he would have ever returned.
I don't approve his doping past, but let's be realistic and acknowledge that to run at a very high level, runners will always be close to that red line, legal or not, just like Rupp was close to the red line but apparently never crossed that line.
Ghost1, Portugal is not a Latin country. It is European.
#Your fellow Portuguese.
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klwaatsanchez wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
Sir, just like cycling, I think many runners have crossed the line, but that merely confirms that many/most runners are on an even playing field. Gomes doped, came clean when caught, served his time and moved on. In Latin society there is little of the vilification present in Anglo Saxon cultures. Had Gomes been a Brit or American, unlikely he would have ever returned.
I don't approve his doping past, but let's be realistic and acknowledge that to run at a very high level, runners will always be close to that red line, legal or not, just like Rupp was close to the red line but apparently never crossed that line.
Ghost1, Portugal is not a Latin country. It is European.
#Your fellow Portuguese.
I know it's European, but I'm talking about its culture, which is certainly more Latin than Anglo Saxon. Iberian Peninsula.
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OXYRUNR wrote:
I have always found it hard to believe that someone who has been caught doping, AND suspended, would not be likrly to do it again (and by the way the manner in which athletes are doping is more sophisticated -harder to detect - today than it was in 2017...)
what exactly are you talking about with the more sophisticated doping?
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