Transgender runner wins regionals by over a minute

jkjkjjjjlll wrote:

Transgender runner who competed last year on the boys team wins Maine regionals by a minute and a half. One of the girls who placed lower as a result spoke out in the article below. Allowing this is so discouraging and unfair to young female athletes.

Winthrop senior Haley Williams, the runner-up as a sophomore and junior, finished third in 20:59.11.
Williams said she knew second place would be her best possible finish this year, “because as you probably know there is a runner that identifies as female, and they were running the boys’ race last year, and they decided to run the girls’ race this year. And it’s really, it’s very upsetting to me because I’ve worked my butt off all year.”

Link:www.pressherald.com/2023/10/21/transge...

Wise Old Man wrote:

There’s so much “unfairness” in the world. Is Ms Williams had run in the D3 section races in the north coast or southern sections of CA she would finish dead last or close to it. So, I guess it’s “unfair” that she lost to Soren, but she’s awfully lucky she’s competing in Maine if place in the race is what matters to her most.

Mountain Master wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

There’s so much “unfairness” in the world. Is Ms Williams had run in the D3 section races in the north coast or southern sections of CA she would finish dead last or close to it. So, I guess it’s “unfair” that she lost to Soren, but she’s awfully lucky she’s competing in Maine if place in the race is what matters to her most.

The fact that you are comparing XC times run by different runners on different courses in different climates proves that you are clueless about the sport.

And yes, it is unfair that a biological female is beaten by a biological male pretending to be female when the race is supposed to be for females.

Mountain Master wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

There’s so much “unfairness” in the world. Is Ms Williams had run in the D3 section races in the north coast or southern sections of CA she would finish dead last or close to it. So, I guess it’s “unfair” that she lost to Soren, but she’s awfully lucky she’s competing in Maine if place in the race is what matters to her most.

The fact that you are comparing XC times run by different runners on different courses in different climates proves that you are clueless about the sport.

And yes, it is unfair that a biological female is beaten by a biological male pretending to be female when the race is supposed to be for females.

Dwightarm wrote:

19:17 won a regional girls meet by a minute and a half…?

Wise Old Man wrote:

Mountain Master wrote:

The fact that you are comparing XC times run by different runners on different courses in different climates proves that you are clueless about the sport.

And yes, it is unfair that a biological female is beaten by a biological male pretending to be female when the race is supposed to be for females.

Do you really think Ms Williams would have a remote chance of medaling in the CA SS? A few years back my daughter ran 18:01 in her CA regional meet (sectional meet) and she got 3rd. She was deprived of a gold medal simply because of her zip code. Oh the injustice!!

jkjkjjjjlll wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

Do you really think Ms Williams would have a remote chance of medaling in the CA SS? A few years back my daughter ran 18:01 in her CA regional meet (sectional meet) and she got 3rd. She was deprived of a gold medal simply because of her zip code. Oh the injustice!!

Who cares and why is that relevant? In William's race she missed out on a medal place. Whether it is competitive with your daughter's region or not is beside the point.

Girls deserve fair sport, and this young woman has a right to speak out about it. They shouldn't just suck it up because their region is slower overall, that's nutty and a bad message for young women.

jkjkjjjjlll wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

Do you really think Ms Williams would have a remote chance of medaling in the CA SS? A few years back my daughter ran 18:01 in her CA regional meet (sectional meet) and she got 3rd. She was deprived of a gold medal simply because of her zip code. Oh the injustice!!

Who cares and why is that relevant? In William's race she missed out on a medal place. Whether it is competitive with your daughter's region or not is beside the point.

Girls deserve fair sport, and this young woman has a right to speak out about it. They shouldn't just suck it up because their region is slower overall, that's nutty and a bad message for young women.

Wise Old Man wrote:

jkjkjjjjlll wrote:

Who cares and why is that relevant? In William's race she missed out on a medal place. Whether it is competitive with your daughter's region or not is beside the point.

Girls deserve fair sport, and this young woman has a right to speak out about it. They shouldn't just suck it up because their region is slower overall, that's nutty and a bad message for young women.

Ms Williams had to “run for 2nd” in this race. So what? In the CA southern section she would be running for 100th against biological girls. Would she feel better in that scenario? The real lesson of all this is being missed in the midst of a lot of trans bashing.