2:02 guy and 6th fastest all time popped
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Is anyone still falling for the Nike marketing ads that it's the Super Shoes breaking records? Obvious in so many sports with records falling everywhere (like in cycling) that have no relation to running that the recent 5 years have seen the arrival of Super PEDs
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Renato Canova, Berardelli, the Rosa's to start should all be banned. No explanation needed. Easy to see what the pi.mps are doing and their actions encourage rampant doping.
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At this point the records and wins are pretty much a joke.
Do people really believe that somehow after a few thousand years of human existence that all of a sudden in the last 5-10 years people magically evolved athletically.
Look back at the people that held world records in the marathon. Certainly some barrier breakers like Jim Peters going from 2:20:42 in 1952 to 2:18:40 on the same course in 1953. It took 11 record-setters and 12 years to get the mark to 2:12:00. It took 20 more years to get to Carlos Lopes in 2:07:12 in Rotterdam in 1985. Then in 1988 Belayney Densamo ran 2:06:50 at Rotterdam in 1988. That record stood 10 years until 1998. I would say that 2:06:50 at Rotterdam in 1988 was the real deal. Ethiopians weren't plentiful and not doing PEDS at that point. Great course and great athlete.
The 90s' brought in EPO and in 1998 the record was finally broken. And after that everything has been somewhat questionable either to PEDs, shoes or association with shady people.
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If you are a top 10 marathoner you are doping.
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astro wrote:
If you are a top 10 marathoner you are doping.
Not Kelvin Kiptum. He's totally legit.
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This is getting ridiculous. World Athletics is a joke and Kenya is a joke. How many more times of these people being popped before world athletics do something and ban Kenya? How many medals and prize money will be wasted on these people before something is done? World athletics is too scared of being cancelled to actually do anything to the Kenyans. Anybody celebrating the records and results coming out of Kenya at this point is clownish. It’s getting old. And people wonder why nobody take this sport seriously
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Numbers don't lie wrote:
Then in 1988 Belayney Densamo ran 2:06:50 at Rotterdam in 1988. That record stood 10 years until 1998. I would say that 2:06:50 at Rotterdam in 1988 was the real deal. Ethiopians weren't plentiful and not doing PEDS at that point. Great course and great athlete.
The 90s' brought in EPO and in 1998 the record was finally broken.
Why has EPO not worked before 1998?
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But It's The Shoes Breaking All The Records wrote:
Is anyone still falling for the Nike marketing ads that it's the Super Shoes breaking records? Obvious in so many sports with records falling everywhere (like in cycling) that have no relation to running that the recent 5 years have seen the arrival of Super PEDs
Super PEDs =/= triamcinolone acetonide
everybody keeps talking about the existence of “super PEDs,” yet nobody is willing to state what they are. Do they exist? Maybe. Do we have far superior tech and training now? Absolutely.
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Itsgetttinold wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. World Athletics is a joke and Kenya is a joke. How many more times of these people being popped before world athletics do something and ban Kenya? How many medals and prize money will be wasted on these people before something is done?
You would have to ban America first for the ridiculous amount of sprinters caught mega doping
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deezenemious wrote:
Super PEDs =/= triamcinolone acetonide
everybody keeps talking about the existence of “super PEDs,” yet nobody is willing to state what they are. Do they exist? Maybe. Do we have far superior tech and training now? Absolutely.
I'll give it a shot:
The new Super PEDs are SARMS stacked with old fashioned masking agent + EPO + testosterone when training
In competition, athletes are now using powerful painkillers. What was once advil is now the triamcinolone acetonide. Since that is now banned in competition, a different "legal" painkiller is being used now by elite athletes when competing.
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But It's The Shoes Breaking All The Records wrote:
Itsgetttinold wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. World Athletics is a joke and Kenya is a joke. How many more times of these people being popped before world athletics do something and ban Kenya? How many medals and prize money will be wasted on these people before something is done?
You would have to ban America first for the ridiculous amount of sprinters caught mega doping
insert Stephen A: STAY OFF THE WEED
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Doping. Tampering. Collusion. Not much innocent intent there really. I can't see that there is any point arguing if the recent record breaking spree is clean. I think currently the WWF is more legitimate than global distance running.
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Itsgetttinold wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. World Athletics is a joke and Kenya is a joke. How many more times of these people being popped before world athletics do something and ban Kenya? How many medals and prize money will be wasted on these people before something is done? World athletics is too scared of being cancelled to actually do anything to the Kenyans. Anybody celebrating the records and results coming out of Kenya at this point is clownish. It’s getting old. And people wonder why nobody take this sport seriously
This is a ban we heard about on July 3rd. You might just be doubling your outrage if you act incredulously when a provisional ban is announced and then formalized.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Itsgetttinold wrote:
This is getting ridiculous. World Athletics is a joke and Kenya is a joke. How many more times of these people being popped before world athletics do something and ban Kenya? How many medals and prize money will be wasted on these people before something is done? World athletics is too scared of being cancelled to actually do anything to the Kenyans. Anybody celebrating the records and results coming out of Kenya at this point is clownish. It’s getting old. And people wonder why nobody take this sport seriously
This is a ban we heard about on July 3rd. You might just be doubling your outrage if you act incredulously when a provisional ban is announced and then formalized.
Aren't you the guy who believes we should wait to pass judgement when an athlete is provisionally banned?
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But It's The Shoes Breaking All The Records wrote:
deezenemious wrote:
Super PEDs =/= triamcinolone acetonide
everybody keeps talking about the existence of “super PEDs,” yet nobody is willing to state what they are. Do they exist? Maybe. Do we have far superior tech and training now? Absolutely.
I'll give it a shot:
The new Super PEDs are SARMS stacked with old fashioned masking agent + EPO + testosterone when training
In competition, athletes are now using powerful painkillers. What was once advil is now the triamcinolone acetonide. Since that is now banned in competition, a different "legal" painkiller is being used now by elite athletes when competing.
While I hear you, why don’t we have more people popping like Asinga?
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But It's The Shoes Breaking All The Records wrote:
Is anyone still falling for the Nike marketing ads that it's the Super Shoes breaking records? Obvious in so many sports with records falling everywhere (like in cycling) that have no relation to running that the recent 5 years have seen the arrival of Super PEDs
not the shoes. the elite levels of the sport are a dope fest.
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