Kiptum is far better in the marathon than Jakob is in the 1500 or 5000.
Kiptum would beat him in a half by a minute or more, and might beat him in a 10k too. His 30k to 40k was 27:52, and his last 2km after 40k was absolutely bonkers—likely his last full 10k was 27:30.
Kiptum is far better in the marathon than Jakob is in the 1500 or 5000.
Kiptum would beat him in a half by a minute or more, and might beat him in a 10k too. His 30k to 40k was 27:52, and his last 2km after 40k was absolutely bonkers—likely his last full 10k was 27:30.
Kiptum seems like a one trick pony to me. Unlike the great Sifan Hassan who medaled in 1500 5k 10k AND won Chicago right on Kiptum’s heels.
I personally believe half thon would be current limit for what Jakob could beat Kelvin at, but that distance will increase each passing year.
Kiptum is far better in the marathon than Jakob is in the 1500 or 5000.
Kiptum would beat him in a half by a minute or more, and might beat him in a 10k too. His 30k to 40k was 27:52, and his last 2km after 40k was absolutely bonkers—likely his last full 10k was 27:30.
Kiptum seems like a one trick pony to me. Unlike the great Sifan Hassan who medaled in 1500 5k 10k AND won Chicago right on Kiptum’s heels.
I personally believe half thon would be current limit for what Jakob could beat Kelvin at, but that distance will increase each passing year.
Someone who can run 2:00:35 is NOT a “one trick pony.” Is this some kind of a joke? This man KK must be close to being the best half marathoner in the world. That would give him at least two tricks.
I'll take Jakob and you guys can have the slow guy.
Endurance standards are weak. Stop being mesmerized. Jakob invading is just like Hassan invading, except younger.
There were comments here before Chicago emphasizing that it was smart money to bet on Cheptingetich (or whatever) to destroy Hassan. That sounds wonderful until the race begins. Gulp. All the flowery adjustments and projections are met by the cold reality that one athlete is simply a different caiiber.
Kiptum is far better in the marathon than Jakob is in the 1500 or 5000.
Kiptum would beat him in a half by a minute or more, and might beat him in a 10k too. His 30k to 40k was 27:52, and his last 2km after 40k was absolutely bonkers—likely his last full 10k was 27:30.
he is not far better at M than jakob is in those distances. I dont care if he is no.1 time ever vs Jakob being no. 4, 5 or whatever he is at. nobody who ran a marathon before the past 5 years was equipped to run the times these guys are at now, whereas track times are only minimally improving, or not at all, AT THE TOP compared to 15 to 20 years ago.
who is to say what bekele, haille, and even kipchoge could have run if they had everything kiptum has today, during their absolute peak of physical powers.
outside of a guy popped for epo, jakob is the fastest 1500 man of the past 20 years
Kiptum is far better in the marathon than Jakob is in the 1500 or 5000.
Kiptum would beat him in a half by a minute or more, and might beat him in a 10k too. His 30k to 40k was 27:52, and his last 2km after 40k was absolutely bonkers—likely his last full 10k was 27:30.
he is not far better at M than jakob is in those distances. I dont care if he is no.1 time ever vs Jakob being no. 4, 5 or whatever he is at. nobody who ran a marathon before the past 5 years was equipped to run the times these guys are at now, whereas track times are only minimally improving, or not at all, AT THE TOP compared to 15 to 20 years ago.
who is to say what bekele, haille, and even kipchoge could have run if they had everything kiptum has today, during their absolute peak of physical powers.
outside of a guy popped for epo, jakob is the fastest 1500 man of the past 20 years
Kelvin Kiptum is the clear best marathoner in the world. Jakob has lost the last two WCs at 1500.
Kiptum is far better in the marathon than Jakob is in the 1500 or 5000.
Kiptum would beat him in a half by a minute or more, and might beat him in a 10k too. His 30k to 40k was 27:52, and his last 2km after 40k was absolutely bonkers—likely his last full 10k was 27:30.
Kiptum seems like a one trick pony to me. Unlike the great Sifan Hassan who medaled in 1500 5k 10k AND won Chicago right on Kiptum’s heels.
I personally believe half thon would be current limit for what Jakob could beat Kelvin at, but that distance will increase each passing year.
Jakob owns Kelvin anything under 1/2 marathon (as long as McSweyn or Sowinski are racing too).
Kelvin wins in a 1/2 if he forces Jakob to break wind for him the first 10k.
The only track results I can find for Kiptum is a 10000m in Stockholm on May 4th 2021 where he ran 28:27 about a minute behind the leader. I’m not sure how trained he was at the time though or how he approached the race
If Grant Fisher can run 26:42 then Jakob can run at least that. I wouldn't say I know Kiptum can do that. So I think Jakob wins everything on the track. But Kiptum will win in a half. He has run sub 59:00 a couple years ago, and he is faster now. So he's probably running 58 flat or better in a half marathon if he would try to peak for a half marathon. I don't see Jakob running much under 59. I think around 15k or 10 miles is where they'll be pretty close, but even then Jakob might just be able to sit on Kiptum and out kick him right at the end. So I'll say 11 miles, final answer.
these great M guys really only have one gear most of the time. im not sure KK could run much under 58:30. Kipchoge never has. As for Jakob, I think his closest contemporary for these is purposes is Yomif, who ran a 58:32 last year. I might give a slight edge to KK, but im not going any more than 60/40 on that.
Kiptum has split the last 10k of a 2:01 marathon at ~58:40 half marathon pace. At the very least I think he’s capable of 58-low, and sub-58 is reasonable if he targeted a fast half. Splitting 27:50ish in two consecutive marathons that were super fast from the start is just ludicrous.
I think Jakob wins at 10k and Kiptum wins at 15k (assuming he has a couple months to target this hypothetical race, instead of running it in the midst of marathon training).
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