I must admit I thought of Tet as well. Though the Tet offensive was aimed at military and government targets whereas this was just raw brutality. Still, you wonder if the after effects will be the same - a realization by politicians that if we carry on doing the same thing this will never end.
Yes it was a sad time, but what could we do? They just had a Military that was better than ours, And Nixon did not want to fight to the last American was dead, so he decided to surrender, USA Lost the War, but The USA continued to exist, USA lived to fight another Day.
I don't find today, Israel that similar to late January, 1968, Viet Nam.
Read the posts from right wing Israelis on here. [Right wing Israelis does not mean they do or do not vote Democrat in U.S.] Right wing Israelis are highly motivated.
Conflict in Viet Nam had gone on for years by 1968. A couple European powers and then U.S., adviser and anti-guerrilla missions before Gulf of Tonkin.
Changes in U.S. culture and events in U.S., 1968, changed U.S. and the men drafted into Viet Nam were different. Before 1970, some Korean Conflict men in Viet Nam. By 1970, the Korean Conflict men had reached retirement age.
You must be confused. The US / S. Vietnam did not lose the Tet Offensive. On the contrary, the main consequence of it was that the Viet Cong were destroyed.
You must be confused. The US / S. Vietnam did not lose the Tet Offensive. On the contrary, the main consequence of it was that the Viet Cong were destroyed.
That is true, tactically the Tet Offensive was a win for the US and ARVN. However strategically it was a victory for the Communists as up until that day US and South Vietnam military brass were reporting to the Pentagon that the war was going well and would soon end in victory. When the VC attacked something like 20 provincial cities in the south almost simultaneously it blew that lie out of the water and US military experts realized it not only would be a long war, they had no long term plan to fight it. Walter Cronkite pretty much turned public opinion against the war when he stated on his nightly newscast the war was unwinnable. That was the beginning of the end.
Honestly I don't see any similarlity between Tet and this.
O.P. asked for O.G.'s opinion of January, 1968, Viet Nam. I don't know ages of posters who have responded but all I see are D.o.D./C.I.A. summaries of January, 1968 to spring, 1968, Viet Nam. No one who has stated U.S. won Tet, have differed from D.o.D./C.I.A. talking points when one Googles Tet.
Yes it was a sad time, but what could we do? They just had a Military that was better than ours, And Nixon did not want to fight to the last American was dead, so he decided to surrender, USA Lost the War, but The USA continued to exist, USA lived to fight another Day.
1,100,000 NVA and Vietcong died which is roughly 19x more than America lost in the war. You think they had a better military?
US just finally realized what that war was… a civil war and we got out. Too bad it took so long and we lost so much.
Before the US was racist as hell on the Asians. Ku Klux Klan skinheads beat up Asians on the streets of California. The US openly massacred Chinese for fun. Ripped off the Japanese and Koreans stealing their houses, cars, farms, then held their parents and siblings at gunpoint while forcing Japanese and Korean young men to fight the German Nazis in Europe.
After America was humiliated, shamed, owned by Asians. The worst military defeat in recorded history happened in 1975 Fall of Saigon where the US Army ran away from firefights leaving 75,000 soldiers to be raped, multilated, and enslaved by vengeful Vietnamese. Bruce Lee became a Hollywood TV and movie hero. Sushi, Kung Fu, Judo, Honda Motorcycles, ramen, teriyaki, kal bi became the rage. America worshipped Asians.
Yes it was a sad time, but what could we do? They just had a Military that was better than ours, And Nixon did not want to fight to the last American was dead, so he decided to surrender, USA Lost the War, but The USA continued to exist, USA lived to fight another Day.
1,100,000 NVA and Vietcong died which is roughly 19x more than America lost in the war. You think they had a better military?
US just finally realized what that war was… a civil war and we got out. Too bad it took so long and we lost so much.
In short, this is accurate. The US underestimated the North's willingness to sacrifice 20 soldiers for 1 American soldier. When Tet happened, this became obvious as the VC were essentially sacrificed and ceased to become of fighting unit. But the Pentagon suddenly realized what they were up against. In 1969, the US started reducing the number of troops under the guise of "Vietnamization" to turn the fighting totally over to the South Viets. In fact, they wanted out as not only did they finally realize they couldn't win but public opinion had turned against the war and Congress eventually refused to pass any funding for it.