What a mess this whole selection system has become.
With standards being raised and rankings becoming important, the fact that an athlete needs to fire up Excel and try to work out where he might be ranked says legions about the situation.
All we are doing is creating more uncertainty in an already difficult path to any games.
Honestly I prefer a 12pm gun time to 7am
This way I don’t have to wake up at the ass crack of dawn and find an open coffee shop the morning of my race to fuel up.
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The US will have 3 men running in the 2024 OG.
If no American runs under 2:08:10 the US will still have 3 entries in the OG.
Everyting else is misinformation. I know this for a fact. The problem stems from the fact that USATF does not know and is not included in the process.
I will return to this thread to say I told you so.
Scott Fauble wants a 2:07? LOL. I want a billion dollars but I ain't getting a billion dollars. And he ain't getting a 2:07. His PR on a non-aided course is a 2:12:28. And now he wants to lower that 2:12 to a 2:07. Scott, keep dreaming!
Well I think to achieve great things you need to dream. I am rooting for Scott!
Classic American and runner. “I’ve been in shape to run so and so time my entire career. I don’t understand why I never actually do it in a race but I am definitely in that shape and you should probably count that as my PR”. I am rooting for Fauble to finally run sub 2:08 though.
Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. The US running media is also out of the loop.
You don't get there without first visualizing it. Good for Scott.
“I don’t think that me running in the 2:07s is a huge stretch of the imagination,” said Fauble, who has removed some of the hillier routes from his training under coach Joe Bosshard but has otherwise prepared similarly for Berlin as he would Boston or New York. “I think I’ve been in that kind of shape a bunch of times.”
He has been in that kind of shape "a bunch of times." Walter Mitty anyone?
2:07 isn't a stretch goal for him at all. He ran 2:08 in Boston and has generally looked good since he got hold of a proper supershoe. He should get the OQT easily and I wouldn't be surprised to see him go deep under 2:08.
It's time for all US marathoners to raise their sights. This isn't about East African dominance or Rojo's "genetics" argument; there's at least 10 Europeans of non-African heritage that have run sub-2:08 in the last three years. Portugal, Spain, France, and Germany have sub-2:07 guys. Even the UK has a guy with the OQT (again, British born, non-African heritage). What's stopping Americans running 2:06-2:07 on a flat course?
The Olympic standard is harder but I think this will make more athletes raise their game to meet it.
That is all great and all, and I would love to see him run deep under 2:08, but, as Bill Parcells used to famously say, you are what your record says it is. So, he is currently a 2:12:28 marathoner. If he runs 2:06:25, then we will call him a 2:06:25 marathoner.
just do it...........I remember Scott from wheat ridge high, at jeffco stadium Colorado. now he's in Berlin......best of luck
Welcome to the real world. Maybe it's time for an office job? Do his parents have money?
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Hmm the 3 US men will have to qualify through the 2:08:10 or the rankings right?
Usually smaller countries that don't have runners reaching the time nor the rankings just don't send any...
Nope. Just wait and see.
The top 3 at the trials will be running in Paris assuming they have run a 2:11:30 during the window.
3 spots will be allocated to USA prior to the trials.
Putting a target out there publicly to shoot for, and one that's not mental (2:03 etc) is hardly to be sniffed at, it is the OLY standard after all.
Much prefer this to the usual BS we get from Kipchoge about aiming for "a beautiful race", gimme a breeeeaaaak
Are you getting him confused with someone else? He ran 2:08.52 at Boston last year. He has four times of 2:08/2:09. I know Boston can be quick with the right wind but I don't think he's ever had that, there were no ridiculous winning times in his races. Plus he ran 2:09 on the Marathon Project course which was record eligible