Leave her alone. There are wildcards and she's been in a ton of 10,000s where there are lapped runners often and they're probably told to just stick to the rail cause that's safest.
It was on the back stretch. Tsegay didn’t even have to leave lane 1. Chill
Tsegay was running 64 second 400 pace and had to change direction and run extra distance.
personally I think it could have 100% cost Tsegay .22 but regardless it was just a selfish and disrespectful action by Kelati.
I remember when Curtis Beach moved to the outside and slowed down to cheer for Ashton Eaton in the 1500 of the decathlon when Eaton broke the world record. Not even a DUKE grad would have stayed in lane 1, and that's saying something.
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It was on the back stretch. Tsegay didn’t even have to leave lane 1. Chill
Tsegay was running 64 second 400 pace and had to change direction and run extra distance.
personally I think it could have 100% cost Tsegay .22 but regardless it was just a selfish and disrespectful action by Kelati.
I remember when Curtis Beach moved to the outside and slowed down to cheer for Ashton Eaton in the 1500 of the decathlon when Eaton broke the world record. Not even a DUKE grad would of stayed in lane 1, and that's saying something.
Tsegay was running 64 second 400 pace and had to change direction and run extra distance.
personally I think it could have 100% cost Tsegay .22 but regardless it was just a selfish and disrespectful action by Kelati.
I remember when Curtis Beach moved to the outside and slowed down to cheer for Ashton Eaton in the 1500 of the decathlon when Eaton broke the world record. Not even a DUKE grad would of stayed in lane 1, and that's saying something.
She caught her halfway down the backstretch. She had 100m to drift out 2.5ft and drift back in. What change in direction?
In this specific case you are right. I however lose total respect for a lapped runner who does not move out to lane 2 or 3. i lose even more respect when the runner lapping you is trying to get a WR. No class.
Lapped runners should be DQ anyway. That would solve that issue.
Zccvbbb wrote: . I however lose total respect for a lapped runner who does not move out to lane 2 or 3. i lose even more respect when the runner lapping you is trying to get a WR. No class.
Lapped runners should be DQ anyway. That would solve that issue.
Agree 100% with OP and with the DQ idea too. As asked above, how did she get into this race? Did she accumulate any DL points? I didn't think Fisher or Hocker had enough either...but there's 1 US Wild Card per event and maybe that's how those Nike guys got in. How Kelati got a lane is a mystery to me, but she certainly didn't take advantage of participating in the fastest race ever.
Embarrassing on 2 fronts: Slow enough to get lapped, and slowed down new WR holder.
Kelati cost Tsegay sub 14 because she didn't get out of the way when getting lapped. That's definitely .22 of a second.
This is just factually incorrect. 0.22 seconds is 1.3 meters at her finishing speed. Look at the video. She did not lose 1.3m going past Kelati on a straightaway.
Plus, it increases the risk of collisions when lapped runners move out, so if they aren't entirely paying attention to the front of the race it can be best for them to stay where they are.
Kelati cost Tsegay sub 14 because she didn't get out of the way when getting lapped. That's definitely .22 of a second.
This is just factually incorrect. 0.22 seconds is 1.3 meters at her finishing speed. Look at the video. She did not lose 1.3m going past Kelati on a straightaway.
Plus, it increases the risk of collisions when lapped runners move out, so if they aren't entirely paying attention to the front of the race it can be best for them to stay where they are.
She definitely ran at least 1 extra meter extra distance but it's the fatigue that would have affected her more from having to move to the outside then move back in.
It would have been sub 14 if not for Kelati. What a shame, this would have been the female equivalent to a sub 4 mile boundary - something that people thought was never possible.
I don't know if it would have been sub-14 since Tsegay passed her on the straight - but we will never know. More to the point, Kelati clearly didn't belong in that race. She only finished 8th in the US champs. Rogers, or even Henes would have been a better choice. But there was no reason for Kelati to not move well to the outside, since it was clear her race was over.
She caught her halfway down the backstretch. She had 100m to drift out 2.5ft and drift back in. What change in direction?
In this specific case you are right. I however lose total respect for a lapped runner who does not move out to lane 2 or 3. i lose even more respect when the runner lapping you is trying to get a WR. No class.
Lapped runners should be DQ anyway. That would solve that issue.
This I can’t argue with as a reason to be upset. But to think it cost her a sub-14 is a stretch. I would love to see someone actually calculate the very small extra distance difference in seconds. I’d think .05s at the most.
This I can’t argue with as a reason to be upset. But to think it cost her a sub-14 is a stretch. I would love to see someone actually calculate the very small extra distance difference in seconds. I’d think .05s at the most.
Let's assume Tsegay deviated by one full lane width (1.22m), even though she probably deviated less. Let's assume she passed her in the middle of the 100 m backstretch. Then Tsegay ran the long edge of 2 triangles, each of which is 50 m long and 1.22 m wide. This added 30 mm (1.2 inches) to the backstretch length. She was running at 6 m/s, so the extra 30 mm took 0.005 sec. If she passed her at 30 m or 70 m, it'd be a little longer: 35 mm, and 0.006 s. It's hard to see this costing her 0.2 s.
I still agree with the OP: Kelati should have moved way out of the way.
Took a moment to get the shoutout to Jimmy Buffet.
Has anyone answered the question of how she got a lane? She could not have been the US Wild Card. The organizers would have given it to a Nike runner. Probably one based there like whoever on BTC is healthy. I have the same question about Grant and Cole. I imagine they were both Wild Cards since it doesn't seem they would have even been close on DL points. I haven't been able to see the WA points list.....
This I can’t argue with as a reason to be upset. But to think it cost her a sub-14 is a stretch. I would love to see someone actually calculate the very small extra distance difference in seconds. I’d think .05s at the most.
Let's assume Tsegay deviated by one full lane width (1.22m), even though she probably deviated less. Let's assume she passed her in the middle of the 100 m backstretch. Then Tsegay ran the long edge of 2 triangles, each of which is 50 m long and 1.22 m wide. This added 30 mm (1.2 inches) to the backstretch length. She was running at 6 m/s, so the extra 30 mm took 0.005 sec. If she passed her at 30 m or 70 m, it'd be a little longer: 35 mm, and 0.006 s. It's hard to see this costing her 0.2 s.
I still agree with the OP: Kelati should have moved way out of the way.
Exactly. No idea why these are getting downvoted. Most people need to re-learn the Pythagorean Theorem before commenting.
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