The statement that Jakob will never break the 1500m WR continues to be put out there by the Jakob naysayers, and he just keeps proving them wrong and wrong again as he moves down in distance from the 2 mile and now to the 2000m. Each time he hasn’t just broken the WR but totally obliterated it. The 1500m WR’s days are numbered.
Correct. Jakob will get the 1500, then the 1000, and then the 800. The 600 might be doable but probably he cannot get the 400, although by your reasoning we cannot rule it out.
Correct. Jakob will get the 1500, then the 1000, and then the 800. The 600 might be doable but probably he cannot get the 400, although by your reasoning we cannot rule it out.
Your comment just lowered the average IQ level of posters on here down another several notches.
There is only one way to prove us wrong. Is Jakob even trying to do it yet?
4:43 is pretty good, but is it worth 3:25, well, no it's not. If it were, why wouldn't he have gone for 3:25 at the first opportunity?
I didn’t say it would be an easy record for him to break but with perseverance he will do it. At the start of this year people were saying he would never break 3:28. He’s now on the verge of breaking 3:27.
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There is only one way to prove us wrong. Is Jakob even trying to do it yet?
4:43 is pretty good, but is it worth 3:25, well, no it's not. If it were, why wouldn't he have gone for 3:25 at the first opportunity?
I didn’t say it would be an easy record for him to break but with perseverance he will do it. At the start of this year people were saying he would never break 3:28. He’s now on the verge of breaking 3:27.
Math and muscle failure will prevent J Ingenbrigtsen from breaking 1500m w.r.
1) J Ingebrigtsen refuses to split first 800m of 1500m (so-called) w.r. attempt any faster than upper 1:51.xx. He is not going to run 1:51.5 then finish with 94.4 final 700m.
2) W.r. 1500m pace would require J I to split 800m in (1:48.xx to 1:50.xx) range. He won't go out that fast because (1:48.xx to 1:50xx) are too close to J I's 800m p.b. He's afraid of muscle failure.
3) J I can choose to train to lower his 800m p.b. or he can continue to put himself in position for international 5000m gold medals. He will not train to lower his 800m p.b. significantly so you can forget J I racing sub-3:26
I didn’t say it would be an easy record for him to break but with perseverance he will do it. At the start of this year people were saying he would never break 3:28. He’s now on the verge of breaking 3:27.
Math and muscle failure will prevent J Ingenbrigtsen from breaking 1500m w.r.
1) J Ingebrigtsen refuses to split first 800m of 1500m (so-called) w.r. attempt any faster than upper 1:51.xx. He is not going to run 1:51.5 then finish with 94.4 final 700m.
2) W.r. 1500m pace would require J I to split 800m in (1:48.xx to 1:50.xx) range. He won't go out that fast because (1:48.xx to 1:50xx) are too close to J I's 800m p.b. He's afraid of muscle failure.
3) J I can choose to train to lower his 800m p.b. or he can continue to put himself in position for international 5000m gold medals. He will not train to lower his 800m p.b. significantly so you can forget J I racing sub-3:26
The 1500m is the world record he most wants. If it ends up that he has to change his training to accomplish that I’m pretty sure he’ll do whatever it takes.
Jakob is without question a rare talent. And he has the 2k and 2 miles records. I think the proof of 'greatness' though would be for him to break the revered 3k (that most of the legends have attempted and failed to beat) record or be the first man under 3:26 for 1500. That would be a sight!
Math and muscle failure will prevent J Ingenbrigtsen from breaking 1500m w.r.
1) J Ingebrigtsen refuses to split first 800m of 1500m (so-called) w.r. attempt any faster than upper 1:51.xx. He is not going to run 1:51.5 then finish with 94.4 final 700m.
2) W.r. 1500m pace would require J I to split 800m in (1:48.xx to 1:50.xx) range. He won't go out that fast because (1:48.xx to 1:50xx) are too close to J I's 800m p.b. He's afraid of muscle failure.
3) J I can choose to train to lower his 800m p.b. or he can continue to put himself in position for international 5000m gold medals. He will not train to lower his 800m p.b. significantly so you can forget J I racing sub-3:26
The 1500m is the world record he most wants. If it ends up that he has to change his training to accomplish that I’m pretty sure he’ll do whatever it takes.
No he won't. If he wanted to train to be a 800/1500 athlete, he would have trained differently from age 12 to age 22. J I is not going to start training like a 800/1500 now.
There is only one way to prove us wrong. Is Jakob even trying to do it yet?
4:43 is pretty good, but is it worth 3:25, well, no it's not. If it were, why wouldn't he have gone for 3:25 at the first opportunity?
He has done several 1500m time trials this season, dummy.
He is clearly stronger over 2000m than over 1500m dummy. Will he break the 1500m record? Probably not, according to his own comments. He obviously can break the 3000m record and probably also the 5000m one. I think a sub 7:50 steeple is well within his reach.
You are - what - 50 years old? With some academic background? You act like a child.
There is only one way to prove us wrong. Is Jakob even trying to do it yet?
4:43 is pretty good, but is it worth 3:25, well, no it's not. If it were, why wouldn't he have gone for 3:25 at the first opportunity?
Why do Duplantis chooses to break the world record by just 1 and 1 cm? Exactly. From a marketing perspective, it's more lucrative to take one piece of the pie at a time rather than trying to swallow it all at once. The lesser records would have had minimal significance if Jakob already held the most prestigious of them all. Hence why he starts from the bottom and works his way up toward the ultimate goal: becoming the greatest 1500-meter runner of all time. Ofc it also has something to do with buying time to get even better and more prepared.
There is only one way to prove us wrong. Is Jakob even trying to do it yet?
4:43 is pretty good, but is it worth 3:25, well, no it's not. If it were, why wouldn't he have gone for 3:25 at the first opportunity?
He has done several 1500m time trials this season, dummy.
He is clearly stronger over 2000m than over 1500m dummy. Will he break the 1500m record? Probably not, according to his own comments. He obviously can break the 3000m record and probably also the 5000m one. I think a sub 7:50 steeple is well within his reach.
You are - what - 50 years old? With some academic background? You act like a child.
No, he has only done one 1500 time trial this year, in Silesia. He stated after that race that he had felt better at Bislett. Still, he ran 3,27,14.
After yesterday’s race he repeated to Norwegian media that he wants to try to beat all the records from 1500 up to the marathon. Some of them are more difficult than others. He is also glad that he succeeded in breaking the 2 miles and the 2k in the first attempt. Now he is done with them and can move on to the rest.
There is only one way to prove us wrong. Is Jakob even trying to do it yet?
4:43 is pretty good, but is it worth 3:25, well, no it's not. If it were, why wouldn't he have gone for 3:25 at the first opportunity?
Why do Duplantis chooses to break the world record by just 1 and 1 cm? Exactly. From a marketing perspective, it's more lucrative to take one piece of the pie at a time rather than trying to swallow it all at once. The lesser records would have had minimal significance if Jakob already held the most prestigious of them all. Hence why he starts from the bottom and works his way up toward the ultimate goal: becoming the greatest 1500-meter runner of all time. Ofc it also has something to do with buying time to get even better and more prepared.
Fair point, but I don't think that's the primary reason. He himself stated that the 1500m WR is the hardest of them all, and that he didn't believe (prior to Silesia) that he was there yet. He said if he continued to take chunks of his PB next year, that "who knows? we will see".
The statement that Jakob will never break the 1500m WR continues to be put out there by the Jakob naysayers, and he just keeps proving them wrong and wrong again as he moves down in distance from the 2 mile and now to the 2000m. Each time he hasn’t just broken the WR but totally obliterated it. The 1500m WR’s days are numbered.
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I already in late 2018 predicted that Jakob would break all the WRs from 1500m and up.
I stated last year that he not only would break the 1500m WR but that he would go well below (sub 3:25) barring illness and injury.
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I am not Norwegian but close enough to be able to read what Jakob has told the Norwegian media after his 2000m WR yesterday:
HE DIDN´T FEEL HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO GO AFTER WRs BEFORE THIS YEAR. HE HAS CHOSEN TO GO AFTER THE EASIEST FIRST (THE LOW HANGING FRUITS). HE WILL NOW GO AFTER THE SHORTEST DISTANCES SO LONG HE FEELS HE CAN IMPROVE HERE.
HE HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO GO AFTER THE LONGER DISTANCES.
HE WILL TRY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING WRs :
1500M
MILE
3000M
5000M
10000M
3000M ST
HM
MARATHON
HE, HOWEVER, WON´T GARANTEE HE EVER WILL GET TO THE MARATHON.
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So el Keniano, Bad Wigins, UKathleticcoach and other who blame him for not going after "real" WRs will possible get their wishes fulfilled starting next year (I, however, don´t think it will make them more happy to see him break these records).
He has done several 1500m time trials this season, dummy.
He is clearly stronger over 2000m than over 1500m dummy. Will he break the 1500m record? Probably not, according to his own comments. He obviously can break the 3000m record and probably also the 5000m one. I think a sub 7:50 steeple is well within his reach.
You are - what - 50 years old? With some academic background? You act like a child.
No, he has only done one 1500 time trial this year, in Silesia. He stated after that race that he had felt better at Bislett. Still, he ran 3,27,14.
After yesterday’s race he repeated to Norwegian media that he wants to try to beat all the records from 1500 up to the marathon. Some of them are more difficult than others. He is also glad that he succeeded in breaking the 2 miles and the 2k in the first attempt. Now he is done with them and can move on to the rest.
For sure not, Oslo obviously was an attempt to run as fast as possible.
I didn’t say it would be an easy record for him to break but with perseverance he will do it. At the start of this year people were saying he would never break 3:28. He’s now on the verge of breaking 3:27.
Math and muscle failure will prevent J Ingenbrigtsen from breaking 1500m w.r.
1) J Ingebrigtsen refuses to split first 800m of 1500m (so-called) w.r. attempt any faster than upper 1:51.xx. He is not going to run 1:51.5 then finish with 94.4 final 700m.
2) W.r. 1500m pace would require J I to split 800m in (1:48.xx to 1:50.xx) range. He won't go out that fast because (1:48.xx to 1:50xx) are too close to J I's 800m p.b. He's afraid of muscle failure.
3) J I can choose to train to lower his 800m p.b. or he can continue to put himself in position for international 5000m gold medals. He will not train to lower his 800m p.b. significantly so you can forget J I racing sub-3:26
Nice to see you come with such a firm prediction. It will now be difficult for you to explain why you were wrong when he breaks the 1500m WR.
He can do that by running 55.5 ; 55 ; 55; sub 40.5.
I will save this thread because some of my favorite fools (Bad Wigins, Hdied and yourself) has posted their usual nonsense here.
No, he has only done one 1500 time trial this year, in Silesia. He stated after that race that he had felt better at Bislett. Still, he ran 3,27,14.
After yesterday’s race he repeated to Norwegian media that he wants to try to beat all the records from 1500 up to the marathon. Some of them are more difficult than others. He is also glad that he succeeded in breaking the 2 miles and the 2k in the first attempt. Now he is done with them and can move on to the rest.
For sure not, Oslo obviously was an attempt to run as fast as possible.
No, his main goal in Oslo was to win a stacked race six days after his 2 miles record in Paris. In Silesia he had tapered and tried to peak. He also brought in an extra top-notch pacer and didn’t think twice about the other racers. There’s a big difference between Oslo and Silesia. But yes, he almost always tries to run fast. That’s one of the thing that makes him stand out. He’s no Centro.
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I bet if Jakob decided to go full tilt on the old hematocrit boosters, he could run a 3:24, locked down, but otherwise it remains a bit of an uncertainty that he can even crack 3:26 once