The 10000 is just a silly sweatfest, a battle of surving heat, humidity

The rest of the week is going to be hot and humid. There is no good day to do it on, and the just have to fight through the bad conditions.

It would probably fastest if they held the race at sunrise.

Cheptegei has been the best sweater overall in the last 4 years, except for Tokyo since he ran tactically poorer.

It should just be a 10K XC race

Wouldn’t you say he sweated (swat? 😉) tactically poorer in Tokyo?

Next Sunday is a high of 79F

As someone mentioned, mornings would be fine too. 8AM start

I'd prefer a fast race too, but any race is going to have a component of toughness as athletes push their limits.

When it skews more toughness than absolute ability, the great ones still pull through. For the rest of the field you find out who's tough and who's Joe Klecker.

You do realise the rest of the world views cross country as across the countryside not glorified track on a golf course, we talk about positions not times but times are irrelevant for comparing a race

or just make it a mini-marathon format - mini half-marathon... few laps around the track - out of the stadium for 4 or 5 miles around a nice surrounding course - drone coverage on the big screen at the stadium - back for a fighting 4 or 6 lap finish around the track... it is just tooooooo many laps - too many left turns --- the 5k should be the upper limit of straight lap racing

I mean did you expect anyone other than the 8ish guys there with 600 to go? They all looked relaxed and ready to wind it up despite the heat.

You probably had to be in at least 26 mids shape to medal in this race and there’s probably only 6-8 guys in there that could do that right now and I believe they were all there when things started to get going

example: woody was dropped with 4-5 laps to go and he’s a 27 lows guy

Americans are just soft, you included according to your post. The best won today, as he has the last two world championships.

This is like whining that a XC course is too hilly and muddy and why would people run there.

Its called racing.

No, they view cross country as driving from coast to coast in a Subaru.

We used to have 10K heats. Imagine that.

It's time, though, to revamp the T&F layout. The track 10000 is a dinosaur at this point.

We need to end the 10000m at the Olympics and WCs. The runners just go slow for majority of the race and kick it in at the end (due to the heat and humidity).

Make it a 10k XC that has obstacle and water jumps to give the non-Africans a chance.

The world record holder and 2x defending champ won the race and the bronze medalist was the defending Olympic champion. They were split by the Commonwealth Games silver medalist (behind the half marathon world record holder) who’s run 26:58 on the roads. And you’re trying to argue that this wasn’t an accurate test of who the best runner is? Come on man.

You might want to check the geographic distribution of world class XC and steeplechase results.

That organizers should try to not run distance races in the peak heat of the day makes sense.

But this complaint reminds me that there are, apparently, a sub-set of fans who don't find the inclusion of hills and/or heat interesting. And that's fine, different strokes.

But, it ALSO appears that there is sub-set who thinks that hills and/or heat should NEVER be in the mix. Everything should be Berlin on 48 degree day. Don't get that at all. And really disagree.