Sophie O'Sullivan: 4:02.15!

entering? shes already there bro wiley's PR is 4:03

Now how do folks feel about little qs? O'Sullivan and Vissa would have advanced under old system.

I wouldn't quite put her there yet.

Wiley 4:03.22, 4:04.25, 4:05.84

O'Sullivan 4:02.15, 4:08.06, 4:09.58

I bet Wiley could have run 4:01 in that heat. All she needs is some competition to push her and Simpson's collegiate record is gone. O'Sullivan just made herself an early favorite for NCAAs, though.

so what your saying is the new lrc darling goes home devastated? Sorry fanboys.

Sophie is a genuinely nice person who happens to run fast. She PR'd today in a championship setting, putting herself out there against people clearly better than her. Nothing beats Sarah Healy lining up against the WR-holder, but sometimes that's how the cookie crumbles. Absolutely delighted for Sophie's accomplishments. She let a gap form that took too much energy to close when she could have used her closing speed to try honing in a couple of women in front of her in the homestretch. A gifted person who did well with her talents.

Her NCAA performances invited criticism for her rough treatment of competitors.

Someone needs to help her open up her stride. It couldn't be more choppy.

Hard to believe she finished DFL in 4:22.8 2 months ago

Well now that nobody is within 4s of her, she will be free to run alone in front of everybody else (by a wide margin)

All track qualifying should be by the fastest times only, the same as is always done in swimming.

The only exception should be if there are rare different weather conditions between heats.

Track competitions would greatly advance by making this change, because the current system always results in slowing things down.

Nah 4:02 is faster.

That had mostly to do with her using up her ammo in the semi. Neither Ireland nor Seattle offers many 95degree 75% humidity days.

Many 4:08 ladies coming back to NCAA in'24. Others will improve too.

Yes, look at this violent assault on Barnett. This is borderline MMA fighting. ::rolls eyes::

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The others ran away to create a gap fearing the leg sweep.

That little nudge shot MA Barnett out the back like wrecked airplane fuselage. She ended up landing in Oregon a la DB Cooper.

O'Sullivan, 4:02.15

Wiley, 4:03.22

O'Sullivan faster, but Wiley has a higher ceiling.

They ran fast because the heat they were in was the fastest, and they were 7/8 in their heat, and almost qualifying. That they ran fast says the system works - no need for a time-qualifiers. Again an advantage for the later heat qualifiers as they know what the earlier heats have run in a time-only scenario, no different than little q's. The purpose of rounds is to weed out the better racers/ better runners from those who are not. That swimmers may need to go fast in a morning prelim and can do so again in an evening final, shows that the sport is completely different. Sprinters do that (100m/110mH), but no way a 800/1500m runner can do that if they are maxed out in the earlier round.

Why do you care if the qualifying rounds are slow? what difference does it make to you? I like that athletes have to beat others, regardless of their time. The athlete who runs 1/10th of a second faster than someone not in their heat, but gets through anyway is an unfair system if they were the same place/position in their respective heats.

Take off the blinkers, she has just run an Olympic qualifying time, bar injury, she will almost certainly line up in Paris, this backs up, a European u23 gold (beating a 4.01 athlete), as well as running a 59 sec last lap to win her division of the European athletics laegue,

Wiley has done well to be fair, but to say Sophie hasn't "entered her territory" is obtuse.

If you ain’t first you last. No moral victories bono.