very good news
I dont get how this can be decided by a majority vote... Did she miss 3 tests in 12 in months or not?
Either way, missing that many tests is very suspicious.
dontgetit wrote:
I dont get how this can be decided by a majority vote... Did she miss 3 tests in 12 in months or not?
Either way, missing that many tests is very suspicious.
So strange indeed. She might have challenged one of the 3 misses as out of her control (rare traffic jam due to accident, without cell phone reception for example), which 2 of the 3 panelists accepted.
Or, could it be that the so-called tester decided to 'phone it in' and could not be bothered knocking on her door ?
Christian Coleman insists he was home eating dinner and watching football on television when the tester claimed he knocked on his door.
The AIU seems to operate on the principle that it's testers do no wrong, while athletes are treated as guilty until they can prove their innocence.
Emevor wrote:
Or, could it be that the so-called tester decided to 'phone it in' and could not be bothered knocking on her door ?
Christian Coleman insists he was home eating dinner and watching football on television when the tester claimed he knocked on his door.
The AIU seems to operate on the principle that it's testers do no wrong, while athletes are treated as guilty until they can prove their innocence.
I thought Coleman was out Christmas shopping when the testers came knocking?
So what happens if she defends her title, runs another WR, and then CAS bans her for 2 years.
Could be another Eid Naser situation.
I was going to post this ... but I was surprised that the subject is not popular in LRC.
If it was something about a busted runner (most likely African) it will take 5 to 6 pages in few hours.
Congrat to
General Jackson Tuwei
elected vice president of the World Athletics.
As you can see I keep track of everything.
Emevor wrote:
Or, could it be that the so-called tester decided to 'phone it in' and could not be bothered knocking on her door ?
Christian Coleman insists he was home eating dinner and watching football on television when the tester claimed he knocked on his door.
The AIU seems to operate on the principle that it's testers do no wrong, while athletes are treated as guilty until they can prove their innocence.
That's exactly what the situation is. The integrity unit undoubtedly employs some people who want to play gotcha, and do the bare minimum. Their bosses think that's perfectly fine. But since there have been so many disputes the disciplinary tribunal has spotted the trend and is now far less willing to rubber stamp.
It's now glaring that doping cases and whereabouts cases are vastly different in terms of probability. If the original test is positive it's extreme rarity the B sample will disagree. But the 3-strike cases can turn into 2 strikes and excusal without much of a twist.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the testers are particularly eager to go through the motions and give the athlete no time or place wiggle room at all, if they know that athlete is already sitting on 2 strikes.
That's the glory. That's the status.
If Tobi is competing with such a short time window to get cleared then why the heck is Nick Ponzio benched for 12 months…
Awsi Dooger wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the testers are particularly eager to go through the motions and give the athlete no time or place wiggle room at all, if they know that athlete is already sitting on 2 strikes.
That's the glory. That's the status.
That's an extremely cynical claim. On what basis have you concluded that WADA has such unethical testers on its staff? If that's true, it seems to me that such testers could and should be held criminally liable for ruining the careers of innocent athletes.
Hard to say. Either Awsi really fell for the troll with the Coleman having been at home joke, or he is the troll.
Miss 3 = Miss 3.
You should not miss 1 so even if #3 is some bizarre circumstance..well, tough!
After one miss, you would think any misunderstanding would be cleared so it won't happen again. Such as gave wrong address or not ringing the doorbell.
lame joke wrote:
Hard to say. Either Awsi really fell for the troll with the Coleman having been at home joke, or he is the troll.
They genuinely believe that doping isn't common in the sport 🤣
100%, really concerning and frustrating about whats gone on here.
Seems pretty simple, but as others have said maybe there's something going on with the protocol the testers are following during the 1 hour window.
Hopefully the AIU is looking at how it can make the protocol for the testers as watertight as possible. Frankly I dont know why that hasn't happened since the Coleman overturning.
You'd think that the testers providing irrefutable proof of their prescence for the entire hour whereabouts window; photos, geolocation etc, should mean only some absolutely rare situations cause an athlete to not take a strike for a missed test.
Can we also agree that the whole "I had a clean test 3 days later" line that keeps being mentioned by Amusan is absolutely b******s? You don't get off of a speeding ticket because 3 days later you drove along the same bit of road at the speed limit.
Nick Ponzio's case has literally nothing to do with this, and he was sanctioned by his own federation and not the AIU anyways. Furthermore, it's obvious that Tobi, as the reigning world champion would and should have a chance to clear her name before the championships, if nothing else, so the AIU doesn't get sued for loss of earnings if she is cleared after the fact.
As it pertains to this case, the tribunal actually cleared her of 2 of the 3 missed tests, we'll have to wait for the full story to be published.
Mickey Mouse Double Threshold wrote:
Hopefully the AIU is looking at how it can make the protocol for the testers as watertight as possible. Frankly I dont know why that hasn't happened since the Coleman overturning.
What Coleman overturning?
First time around, he escaped a ban because his 1st whereabouts failure was backdated, moving it outside of the 12 month.
Second time around, he was rightfully banned because his three missed tests were crystal clear. He only asked for a reduction of the ban (and succeeded, from 24 to down 18 months) because he was expecting a courtesy phone call like the USADA testers would normally - against the rules! - provide.
This should have caused an uproar, as USADA got openly scolded for that procedure, plus USADA should have stopped giving these illegitimate calls, no more, no less.
Op should change his handle to DopeLeader
Happen, sadly, to agree with AD. There is no integrity anywhere these days (maybe there never was), so why should the AIU get a pass. We know that most Pro's are dopers (isn't that the LR mantra?), so by extension College (little testing), and also HS (no testing). Certainly people don't become less moral as they become Pro's, have you seen HS kids these days?
Why should organizations get a pass - WADA, USADA, AIU, Safesport, heck any and all governments are corrupt. Look at the Presidency, SC, Justice System. Since integrity no longer exists elsewhere, why is it just athletes who are cheaters? Everyone has a corrupt agenda (no exceptions), so why why should individuals in AIU be different? The human problem is that people run organizations, sometimes with little oversight as well. Since ALL humans are immoral and corrupt, that means these organizations are as well. Heck, next you will tell me that the Church (any church for that matter) is a bastion of integrity!
So, frankly, these organizations are as believable as the athletes themselves. Not a pretty picture is it?!