I ran my fastest mile ever today and how in the hell are super shoes legal?

Were these miles run in the same conditions?

The rocket 2s are not supershoes, whatever the classification of a super shoe is.

If you wish you improved it further, go to a track or golf course and wear spikes you will drop another 30 seconds

Mostly. I live around 5500 feet. The run today was hotter (80) but there was a slight downhill. I felt like I might be able to get in the 4:55 - 4:58 range but that 46 just blew my mind.

Umm yeah running downhill might've had something to do with it....

they are - the rocket X1 was not as it didn’t have the PEBAX foam

OP is correct, I knocked 15 minutes off my full marry PR wearing super shoes at St. George’s ‘thon.

Previously I had only run NYC, in ghosts, this pebax is magical.

(Please leave Colorado. It's a terrible place to live anyway. Just pack up your jeep and head back down to Texas or Cali. What'cha could do is keep your snowboard with the CO weed sticker on it and put it in your mancave just visible behind your 120" flatscreen. Should still get the ladies....)

Wait. You ran a GPS "mile" on a downhill course and think that the 35 second difference is due to Hokas. Until you run this on a track, I'd take that 4:46 with a truckload of salt.

Which shoes did you wear? The latest Hokas? A downhill course measured by GPS could definitely give a false time. Since you're working on your mile time (and good work, by the way), how about you run two time trials a week apart on a track, once with the old shoes and once with the supershoes (either order)--then report back. You may be a super responder and form improvements can make a big difference, but with the info you gave, it's still TBD.

It’s the shoes folks. We have always had downhills. The shoes are the new variable.

Just tried cycling in pebax vaporflys.

I improved my speed by 50%. Previous course was flat. Today was downhill but only a few % grade.

I thought it was only the X3 that has Pebax.

All I can say is that congrats on such a fast mile at 40+. I can't get anywhere near my high school PR (female) of 5:52 at age 43, super shoes or no.

Come on, buddy. You've got to hit the track and do a mile in your old non-super shoes, and then a couple weeks later do another mile in your super shoes. Then let's resume the discussion. But yes... it seems like the shoes do indeed improve times by the advertised 4% or so. That would be about 12-13 seconds off your 5:22.

The thread is not about the shoes. Or the hill. OP wants us to know how well he is running in middle age. He is, and he did.

Can't site administrators do something about this. We know Nike has low-level clowns scouring the Board. That is no mystery. But can't it be stopped? How hard would it be to block anyone from HQ in Beaverton? Not adding to a conversation but posting just to get a plug in is offensiveley common here. It just gets annoying....

Maybe you were just running on pure hate.

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