Ollie Hoare pulls out of Worlds due to hernia injury

Fuuuuuuuck that sucks

I've recently athletic pubalgia/sports hernia issues, and on the recent coffeeclub pod Olli was describing basically the same symptoms as I had.

It's a bummer but this is totally the right call. These issues doesn't get better without significant rest and rehab. Split squats and Copenhagen progressions really did a lot for me, and now ~4 months later I'm close to 100%.

Oh, and also lots of core with a focus on engaging the transverse abdominal muscles.

Whereabouts?

Elite distance running is cruel and unforgiving. To compete at the highest level so many things have to go right and there is almost no room for error. You can’t make up for any physical issue with grit or savvy like you can in other sports. Look at Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl, dude could barely walk, but still he’s able to compensate and prevail. There’s no chance of this in the men’s 1500. Hope Ollie heals and has a chance to be at his best in Paris. You just want to see all of the competitors at their best.

Such sad news, that's 2 top 1500m guys out this year due to injury

Well. We've seen it in other sports as well (Cross country skiing). When athletes with big engines starts to dominate the sport, the others in the upper league (medal contenders) are in a desperate situation, ang gets overtrained. They know the risk, but it's their only chance.

What you talking about Wightman is the 1500 champion in case you forgot. Pressure is on Jakob to catch him, not the other way around.

I would say the pressure is on Wightman to beat him, to prove it wasn't a fluke!

Disagree. That was Wightmans lucky day. Too much pressure to copy that in Worlds. Jakob is steady as a mountain, and just keeps on grinding. No rush, no desperation.

Me too, it took me nearly ~5 months to not have to think about it during regular fitness activities and nearly a year for occasional phantom pains as well as any way to re-trigger it to completely go away.

I just continued with all my regular fitness activities including running, weights, rowing, cycling etc. that didn’t cause pain but avoided any activity that triggered the pain like hanging leg raises or sprinting.

A young and healthy guy like him just need to shut it down for 3 months if it's only AB. If he has full sports hernia too with a bump, he will likely need a surgery. Is sports hernia for runners like him from running too fast the turns on the track? Or can this happen from just running to fast on a straight away too?

I am currently dealing with the same issue that I've recently re-triggered. Mine was caused by strides on a flat straight road.

What happened to the thread by username whereisthehoare?

Was he deadlifting? The reward for runners in regard to deadlifting is not worth the risk.

I realize some sub-1:43 800m runners did deadlifts. I realize some current & former sub-3:32 1500m runners did deadlifts.

It isn't scientific training to just do random stuff. I have D1 Am. football friends whom are a wreck from deadlifting. Thing is, Am. football players have to deadlift, T&F athletes do not.

IMO it's some underlying biomechanical issue that results in your groin/adductor muscles bearing the brunt of a load that they were never intended to handle bc other muscles groups are not firing and/or are forced into bearing the load by bad mechanics/poor ROM. I had this bad, got an abdomen tear fixed + adductor tetonomy by Dr. Brown, the guy in the bay area who does the non-mesh fix for NFL guys including Marshawn Lynch. It took a ton of exploration after the surgery to pinpoint what I think was the cause, but I ultimately figured out the left side where I had the issue, I had both a non firing glute, and reeeeeally poor hip internal rotation. The latter requires some really specific and goofy looking exercises to improve, but once I did I've never had issues since.

Not saying this is what's behind Ollie's issues - but I hopes he gets the best physios/biomechanics people to analyze every range of motion in his lower half to hopefully find & fix a deficit in muscle firing and/or range of motion that might exist and be the root cause of all the stress being offloaded on muscle groups not intended to bear it it.

“Pubic Symphysis”

Sports hernias are usually caused by some form of rotation.

Olli has some holistic strength training approach. I doubt they Deadlift.

Though there is nothing wrong with dead lifting. Nothing at all lol