Who is the heaviest recorded Sub 4 miler? and Is Nick Bare capable of doing it?

not him

What if he just runs really fast. With pure hate.

Hey code5800,
You sound like a skinny dude on the young side but done with education. Not very fast times, but broke 18 for 5k. Single. So far, am I right? Not getting on in life (you're here on Saturday night, but not with your mates, or mate) You are angry! Unable to adequately express yourself at times. Raging about "pure hate" comes naturally to you (sadly) because you have pent up anger based on unfulfilled goals in life. Again, Saturday night, here you are. You are a GREAT fan-boy, a boy (not a man) who watches other males compete. Deep down, you are soft. You compensate for this soft middle of yours by talking Rough-with-the-Boys, "pure hate" yeah! You're also white, semi-racist (or full on) and can barely call yourself a runner if we're being honest. Let me know if you need a coach (a Grown Man). We offer competitive rates. Get your weight up, kid. Maybe you'll break 4:50 one day. What'dya say? We will turn you into a man.

I think Wheating was somewhere in the 175-180 range. He's 6'6", so his BMI is likely way less than Symmonds, but he is also the #6 US all-time at 1500m.

I wouldn't say I'm skinny. I'm just under 160 and 5'9'. I hit 4:58 1600 a couple months back but I'm no competitive runner, I hit 4:17 in High School but have since not taken running seriously. Just occasional local 5ks in my area 4 times a year. I have a great deal of respect for heavier runners because at my current weight I struggle with Sub 5 and yet they are elite runners. Some strength. I was in the low 140s when I hit 4:17. Never a big guy.

Regardless I have a 9-5 now and I only run as a local champ and not some OAR folklore. My rants are usually just being a troll more than I care about my insecurities like you lol. Hope you have a good one though. You provided no names so you're useless.

Wheating is a beast. Tall fella.

Juantorena was said to weigh 185, and got pretty close when he moved up to 1500 for some reason and went 3:45. Coulda done it. Don't know if he still weighed 185 though.

It is really hard to do fast middle distance if you weigh anything.

Peter Snell was listed as 80kg (176lb) and ran 3:54.1.

Thank you for providing my excuse

A thread posing this question comes up every few months here. The correct answer -and this isn't a guess or an estimate, but a fact- is Jack Fath, who was a shade over 200 when he ran 3:59.5 for Fordham in 1968. And at the time, he was only the 28th American to have gone sub-4.

While I appreciate the response. I can't really find anything that suggests he was a heavy runner. All I find is that he was 6'2" and based on his pictures, he looked even thinner than Bannister!

Respectfully, my knowledge of this is of the firsthand variety.

Oh.

I'm just trying to find the runners who have the most talent. Many people can be scrawny and fast, but the rare are built like Thor and run fast.

Nick Bare could not run 59 for 400m.

Curious...how tall was this dude?

Nevertheless, any guy regardless of height running sub-4 @ 200 lbsl is remarkable - and almost to the point of unbelievable. 😲

6'2" but I googled him and I doubt very much he weighed 200 lbs or anything within 40 lbs of it. He looked scrawny as heck.

5'9", 160lb is skinny. Lift some weights.

Alan

Really? I guess that depends on " skinny" definition. This is 5'9" 155lbs.

https://images.app.goo.gl/V2Dm8i9HeSBNtscq8

Yes, very lean, but muscular.