How are People running fast on Vaporfly? Its so uncomfortable

You have to look past the narrow and unstable feeling. Focus on the springy launch effect of the shoe.

I feel the same way. They feel so squishy to me I can’t find a good rhythm, especially in shorter races. I find the Brooks Hyperion Elite much more comfortable as they have a much stiffer feel. I still use Vaporfly for some workouts and maybe if I did a half marathon I would consider them again, but for anything shorter I have shelved them.
I have yet to try Adidas. The New Balance Supercomp Pacer is alright, but definitely has an old school flat feel. For me the Brooks strikes a happy medium.

agreed on the vaporfly. I can run in them but barely. It feels like my toes are pointing up all the time, and I just squish down. Certainly they are no faster for me than any other shoe.

I get no pop, none of the bounce feeling other runners get. So I went back to old fashioned flats. I've had some success with the Brooks Hyperion Elite. And the new Tracksmith shoe feels good to me - Working well for me for regular runs.

sorry, brooks hyperion tempo

The only supershoe I can use is the Brooks Hyperion Elite 2. Firmer and more stable than other supershoes. They almost feel like a traditional running shoe.

hmmm interesting thanks for the suggestion , never tried brooks. Maybe we should form a small group since our legs have similar awareness haha ... guess what, one funny thing i saw on youtube the other day, a runner compared original vaporfly to a fake one for the 5k , and he ran faster on the fakes :D :D i don;t know what to say.. let me make a thread on that one

so what nike has to say

For me it gets worse as the distance gets longer.. i used for a Marathon once and i had a strong urge to just remove the shoe and continue barefoot

hey bro , hows the performacne factor for the hyperion... How many seconds PB comapred to non super sheos

they are so uncomfortable you run faster to get it over with

is 3:20- 30 considered slow pace or whats the cut off, anyway i tried varying pacecs, the sinking effect still is there even at 3 pace

I feel the same. the OG Vaporfly was the best but the next% never really clicked with me. It makes me wonder if the Adidas Takumi Sen 8 or 9 would be a better shoe for me than the Vaporfly Next% 2

Only run tempos in it

is this the secret ?hmmm

I'm 54 years old. All my pb's are from the 1990s. I'm doing masters racing and I need shoes that protect my old legs while still being stable.

Your times should be faster still. It's a trampoline shoes. Comfort is only secondary. Let it bounce you.

This is a funny thread because thousands of elite runners love this shoe but the 13 guys posting here seem to have discovered something that none of the rest of us have noticed.

I love this shoe and it feels better than any other racing shoe I have ever worn. It is ultra-light (like an old-school racing flat), ultra-cushy (like a Hoka), and ultra-fast (like a trampoline). The magical trifecta of what I want from a shoe.

How can these guys possibly run fast in this shoe? Is that really what you are asking?

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I think it's pretty clear that people respond to the super shoes on a spectrum from 4% to zero or even negative.

That's been the story from the beginning so finding some people who don't respond to the shoes and want to talk about it on a running forum shouldn't be very interesting to you.

What a stupid post.

It’s obvious most people like the Vaporfly—the few people here just haven’t had success with them like others have. Which is the whole point of the thread—they don’t work for us and we want to try a second option.
I’m glad they work for you though.