It will be the shock of all time.
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they will win Track.
they don't have enough depth to win XC
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Uhhh, Florida is NOT at altitude, and does not have much in the way of hills.
But exciting developments to watch, for sure.
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not so fast mkay wrote:
Uhhh, Florida is NOT at altitude, and does not have much in the way of hills.
But exciting developments to watch, for sure.
It does have ‘poor man’s altitude’, but its different, engendering different epogenetic expression(s).
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I'd argue that they're already a contender based off of their top four, but without a strong five it'll be hard to beat NC State or Colorado. Four returning All-Americans is pretty nice though, with one of them being Valby definitely sets them up nicely.
1. Valby -- 18:25.90
2. Asekol -- 19:25.3
3. Mazza Downie -- 19:37.3
4. Thorner -- 19:57.6
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chomp wrote:
I'd argue that they're already a contender based off of their top four, but without a strong five it'll be hard to beat NC State or Colorado. Four returning All-Americans is pretty nice though, with one of them being Valby definitely sets them up nicely.
1. Valby -- 18:25.90
2. Asekol -- 19:25.3
3. Mazza Downie -- 19:37.3
4. Thorner -- 19:57.6
the significance of times from different courses and races? FL now has 3 runners withing 40 seconds of Valby at Nationals which is very good.
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Could just be another 2022 Alabama if their fifth can't keep up. Absolutely dominant top 4, then like 150 points from their number 5.
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Can spyrou or shapiro step up?
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I'd say their PR's are relevant
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Hobby10k wrote:
Could just be another 2022 Alabama if their fifth can't keep up. Absolutely dominant top 4, then like 150 points from their number 5.
I think FL's 5th is a lot better than that (I'd say 60ish), but I dont think this top 4 is as strong as AL was last year. They are very good, just not that good imho.
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chomp wrote:
I'd say their PR's are relevant
PRs on different courses? Really? Well, to each their own.....
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Since you can't handle nor comprehend people having PR's from different courses, here are their times from NCAA's last fall. 19:30.9, 19:56.5, 20:02.8, 20:13.9 ...
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not so fast mkay wrote:
not so fast mkay wrote:
Uhhh, Florida is NOT at altitude, and does not have much in the way of hills.
But exciting developments to watch, for sure.
It does have ‘poor man’s altitude’, but its different, engendering different epogenetic expression(s).
What, exactly, is the physiology of how "poor man's altitude" works?
We all know that at high altitude there is an erythropoietic drive that is hypoxia-induced. That, in turn, results in erythrocytosis and an increase in hemoglobin concentration and hematocrit. What is it about the heat & humidity of Gainesville that results in the same physiologic changes?
That aside, I'm looking forward to how Florida does. Other than Olemomoi, who else is coming in? I see her and Valby being top 5 at the very least at the championships. That's a good start but without strong runners at the back end, or strong 6s & 7s if someone falters, a championship can't be won.
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chomp wrote:
Since you can't handle nor comprehend people having PR's from different courses, here are their times from NCAA's last fall. 19:30.9, 19:56.5, 20:02.8, 20:13.9 ...
much more applicable and meaningful and as I posted above "
FL now has 3 runners within 40 seconds of Valby at Nationals which is very good."21 -
Now I see who else is coming in.
Someone please explain the whole poor man's altitude thing to me, though
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13579 wrote:
Now I see who else is coming in.
Someone please explain the whole poor man's altitude thing to me, though
humidity and heat I believe
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13579 wrote:
What, exactly, is the physiology of how "poor man's altitude" works?
We all know that at high altitude there is an erythropoietic drive that is hypoxia-induced. That, in turn, results in erythrocytosis and an increase in hemoglobin concentration and hematocrit. What is it about the heat & humidity of Gainesville that results in the same physiologic changes?
That aside, I'm looking forward to how Florida does. Other than Olemomoi, who else is coming in? I see her and Valby being top 5 at the very least at the championships. That's a good start but without strong runners at the back end, or strong 6s & 7s if someone falters, a championship can't be won.
Wait…what?? They are getting Olemomoi, too?!?
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13579 wrote:
not so fast mkay wrote:
It does have ‘poor man’s altitude’, but its different, engendering different epogenetic expression(s).
What, exactly, is the physiology of how "poor man's altitude" works?
We all know that at high altitude there is an erythropoietic drive that is hypoxia-induced. That, in turn, results in erythrocytosis and an increase in hemoglobin concentration and hematocrit. What is it about the heat & humidity of Gainesville that results in the same physiologic changes?
That aside, I'm looking forward to how Florida does. Other than Olemomoi, who else is coming in? I see her and Valby being top 5 at the very least at the championships. That's a good start but without strong runners at the back end, or strong 6s & 7s if someone falters, a championship can't be won.
Besides those you mention for altitude, there is also a thinning of the walls of the lung’s air sac tissue (per my recollection from an old British Miler’s Club publication.)
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