You’d think by now with almost a decade of implementation across women why hasn’t the system produced multiple Jakobs and Nordes?
Or why doesn’t Jakob do what Kipyegon is doing? Clearly her training is better since she’s the 1500/5000 WR holder and Jakob isn’t… OP is either sexist or dumb
You’d think by now with almost a decade of implementation across women why hasn’t the system produced multiple Jakobs and Nordes?
Or why doesn’t Jakob do what Kipyegon is doing? Clearly her training is better since she’s the 1500/5000 WR holder and Jakob isn’t… OP is either sexist or dumb
You mad bro? You are reacting in a very triggered manner.
Also, your argument is very flawed. JI is far younger and less physically developed than Kipyegon. No, years of training is not a valid argument, as she has been training since a young age as well. Jakob also has a WR and WC title to his name, both by the age of 22. Why didn't Kipyegon have both of those collectively by age 22?
Yawn, learn from your shortcomings and think through your rebuttal before stating it in writing. Massive age gap, and Jakob has achievements she did not have prior to 22 years of age.
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You’d think by now with almost a decade of implementation across women why hasn’t the system produced multiple Jakobs and Nordes?
Or why doesn’t Jakob do what Kipyegon is doing? Clearly her training is better since she’s the 1500/5000 WR holder and Jakob isn’t… OP is either sexist or dumb
What is Faith Kipyegon’s training like? What’s her weekly mileage? How long is her long run? What do her sessions look like?
Worked for Ingrid kristiansen in the 1980's. Ok she didn't do double threshold but her training was based on large aerobic volume with lots of threshold work and little work at v02 max or faster. Used to X country ski so applied similar training ideas to running. Use of double threshold in running may have started with Marius Bakken but people, including women, have been doing this type of training for a long time and been successful with it.
Yeah, the real question is why haven't Norwegian women seen success in high profile sports to the same degree as men? T&F really has three outstanding siblings and one 400m hurdler. Their tri system is more astounding up and down the results.
The Bakken system in tri really took off when Olav Alexander Bu came onboard. Yes, they were fast before and the system worked well, but there wasn't a ton of notoriety until Bu took it to the next level. His data-heavy system is easier to implement on men simply because there is no confounding factor of menstruation. Not a leap to think the pilot program was on the men's team for ease of analysis and had a delayed application to the women's team
You do realize that even the inventor of the system, Marius Bakken, was a World finalist at best, nothing more? The training itself isn't going to produce great runners.
You’d think by now with almost a decade of implementation across women why hasn’t the system produced multiple Jakobs and Nordes?
Excellent question. The same question has been asked in triathlon. The answer is that it only works for specific talents, who perhaps would be succeeding regardless of the training scheme. What about the NAU women or whatever pro female is training under Smith?
Norwegians have a pharmacological advantage, not a training protocol advantage. Just look at Nordas progression after only a few months on the pharma protocol. No training program works that fast.
You mad bro? You are reacting in a very triggered manner.
Also, your argument is very flawed. JI is far younger and less physically developed than Kipyegon. No, years of training is not a valid argument, as she has been training since a young age as well. Jakob also has a WR and WC title to his name, both by the age of 22. Why didn't Kipyegon have both of those collectively by age 22?
Yawn, learn from your shortcomings and think through your rebuttal before stating it in writing. Massive age gap, and Jakob has achievements she did not have prior to 22 years of age.
Down votes from insecure, low to moderate income, public university grads coming in 3, 2, 1....
We all know that if Jakob were called LaJake Ingrupp and came from Arkansas, his fan boys on here would be screaming his praises. Xenophobia is strong.
The idea that kids walk or cycle to school and go out at weekends and holidays to do active sport, rather than stay in their basements playing computer games and eating all-you-can-eat buffets from cheap chain restaurants is alien to many Americans. The whole Ingebrigtsen family is a triumph of Norwegian social cohesion and culture. In the US a similar dynamic would be on welfare checks and/or spaced out on meth.
You do realize that even the inventor of the system, Marius Bakken, was a World finalist at best, nothing more? The training itself isn't going to produce great runners.
In Bakken's case, it was the training more than anything else that made him a wc finalist. When he was coached by Peter Coe he was a 3,38 1500 runner but after that he became a 13,06 5000 runner.
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