How does Jakob break the WR in the 1500m...

I am not sure why anyone thinks he can ever do it. He seems more like Komen than Hicham and Komen didn’t seem like he could have ever done it. I see his ceiling at low 3:27 even in superspikes. He has surprised me before though so who knows?
He would probably have a slightly better shot at the 2000m record, but that is formidable as well.

He's not going for it in Oslo since he doesn't think the track is fast enough, and more generally let's contextualize 3:26.00

Only 3 people have ever been under 3:27.00, of which 1 is a confirmed doper and the other 2 did in the peak of the EPO era. Jakob's PB, even though it's safe to assume he's in better shape than that now, is nevertheless 2 seconds off of those human race horses. That big gap is not trivial and Jakob himself is evidently very aware of that if you listen to him.

I hope we see a WR attempt from him this year but this meet isn't going to be the one since he's not going to be asking for a fast enough pace. I think he will go for a PB and probably become the 6th man ever in the sub 3:28.00 club though.

El Guerrouj's record isn't going down this week.

I really don’t think the last lap pace is the issue. No, he’s not Faith Kipyegon where a 52-second last lap is likely. But he can run pretty even or slight negative with some margin of error. That being said I’ll be happy if he runs under 3:26.50 at some point, let alone 3:26.00. It won’t be this meet but I’d like to see him shell out for a premium pacemaker to go through 1100 and follow the lights to 2:31.5. Maybe the venue is Lausanne/Silesia I don’t know, but get Munguti again.

Well I will say this - I didn't think I would see a 2 mile in 7.54.10 where he ran the last 3000m in under 7.22. And I get it, Hicham was almost certainly a 1.43 800m runner (with the mythically alleged sub 1.43 in training) and Jakob isn't that - but even I have underestimated just how much of a difference almost perfect even splits make to record attempts (almost every record we have seen in the last 36 months is because of them) and Jakobs ability to execute flawlessly.

And either way, he may not get it but he is going to try and so he should. That alone will be worth the price of admission. So I'm just theorizing if in any realm of possibility he can do this, what he's going to have to run.

Anyone else wondering if Jakob saying the track is too slow isn’t a bit of misdirection on his part? I’ve never heard anything about Oslo being particularly slow before, and he just ran 3:46 there last year. Obviously there’s a difference between too slow and too slow for 3:26.00, but I can’t help but think of his interviews before Paris, where he downplayed the whole thing and even laughed at the organizers calling it a record attempt. We all know how that went…

Anyway, I’m probably reading too much into it and Oslo will end up being “only” a 3:28 race or whatever. I think Lausanne would be a good place to try for the record as Tim has run quickly there in the past. Jakob seems to like a slight negative split, so maybe 1:50 and 2:45? That would put him around a second up on El G (2:46.3 @ 1200) and leave him a 40.xx final 300 to break the record.

Also, a quick Worlds prediction: Jakob wins after blasting the 3rd lap (like he said he should’ve done last year) but misses El G’s CR of 3:27.65 by a few tenths.

i agree - even if Hicham never actually ran faster than 1:47 or whatever in a race, he obviously could have at least run in the 1:43, and in my opinion also the 1:42s. this of course, is alongside probable 12:4x-12:3x capability (based off of his 7:23 and the 12:50 in the one time he ran a tt 5k).

this is what komen had that many lacked, it is also what lagat had when he ran under 3:27, and it is also what komen and jakob both lack/lacked, which is the reason why komen never touched the record and why jakob won’t get it this year.

i actually do think he’s gonna get it at some point, but there’s no way it’s this year. i could MAYBE see a mile record at monaco or somewhere it is where fast if it is a day where the pace is fast and everything is perfect, but quite frankly i think his time would be better served going after the 3000, 2000, and especially 5k record this year, all of which i would put his chance at getting at close to 100%.

No. Bislett does not use Mondo, and due to both rain and snow needs to have different (better) drainage than you find elsewhere. For sure, it's not a slow track - it was where Warholm first lowered the 400mH WR.

I don't see that he has the speed to run 3.26. Even if he trained for it he would be unlikely to break 1.46 for the 800. El G ran that in the last 800 at Athens in 2004.

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El G was 2:46.34 in his 3:26 race and closed in a ridiculous 39.6. That seems like its out of Jakobs wheelhouse. El G did come through 1,200 faster than that 4 times after (2:46.22, 2:46.1, 2:45.78, 2:44.75) but couldn’t break the record. I think Jakob needs to be in that 2:45 low area to have a shot, but not sure the pacemaking will be sufficient.

Interesting that he requested they change this meet to a 1,500, because the Mile is a bit more doable as a record for him.

Just get on Monaco's track, aim for 1:50.0 at the 800 and go for it.

But the imbeciles at World Athletics decided to drop the 1500m from Monaco. Rumor is that the Moroccans bribed them to do so.

1.50 is less than 4 secs from his absolute best over the 800. It would be like Coe setting out in 1.45-46. Jakob couldn't set out running that close to his best 800 without blowing up.

Pull a Webb (like his race in Belgium) and set up his own little race there.

Lagat's 800m PR is 1:46 and he closed a a 1500m race in 1:46.

Maybe, just maybe, a PR doesn't represent a runner's limit at that event if he doesn't race it often.

41-56-56-54 gets 3:27. That's my prediction.

Here comes the D arrows from J Ingebrigtsen fan boys:

He won't. Please remember, Coe raced last 700m in 94.xx seconds after splitting 800m in 2:04.xx, 1980 Olympics 1500m final.

Some 800m talent is needed. J Ingebrigtsen has NCAA D2 or D3 800m talent.

One of the better posters here, in my opinion.

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