CBU DIDN'T HIT SPONSORSHIP MINIMUMS- BUT ARE STILL AT NCAAs!

https://www.tfrrs.org/top_performances/CA_college_m_California_Baptist.html?list_hnd=4153&season_hnd=608

I'm trying really hard to care about this, but it's not happening.

Look into and report them,

Some reason why they may be good to go though:

They only sponser outdoor, so they probably don't have the same minimum meet threshold.

While they only have 13 on TFRRS roster, they had 17 5ks from different guys. May have more on the team than what it shows.

Their men did run 14 at the WAC Championships. But this includes a guy who ran 4' in the 1500m, two guys that ran 17' in a 5k and two guys who DNF in the 10k.

Basically they have a team of 9 guys, but know that 14 is the requirement* and bastardize the intention of the rules so they can put a full allotment of scholarships into cross country.

It's a joke that teams are allowed to trivialize the sport in this manner. Men's TF is going to go by the way of wrestling if the NCAA continues to allow this.

Montana state has had less than 14 guys in the past compete, but still made it happen. Don’t blame the ncaa, blame PSU coaches and compliance for not taking care of their athletes.

You going to respond with an actual researched response or cry about nothing? 14 at WAC started. 14 at UC Irvine started. 14 at Ben brown started. 14 at Bryan clay started. 14 at Stanford started. It appears they don’t have guys listed on their tfrrs roster that either left the team or got kicked off as the season went on. And like a previous poster mentioned, they don’t have indoors so their rules are different.

makes sense, you’re probably from Portland state. Typical leftist cry babies who make claims without any clear evidence.

Montana State has had a full team with all event groups every year for 50 plus years. So, not sure how they were mentioned as ever having less than 14 guys?

Sorry if you’re a fan of MSU, I was playing the OP’s game of ignorance and threw them randomly out there to see if they would actually research it to see it’s a false statement. Used them just cause Duncan’s also a steepler.

Now now Coach Tribble, no need to insult others. Also for the record 11 raced at Stanford and Bryan Clay, counting the same runner twice doesn’t work like that unfortunately…

My dears, it's not "less than 14 [runners]," but "fewer than 14."

Zlatko Kozuhar

Christian Ricketts

Sean Lacey

Florian Le Pellac

four guys that ran at Stanford/ San Fran that are not listed on the roster on tfrrs anymore (but all were racing in uniform this season). They all raced this season in uniform. Again, check facts before you peeps spew out nonsense. Not doing your research doesn’t make you right “unfortunately”…

Not Tribble but am a former runner getting annoyed at this nonsense being spewed out against the program. CBU over many only distance programs anyday.

11 men competed at Stanford

3 men at San Francisco

Both of these meets wouldn't meet the minimum of 14.

Don't really know the rules, but 14 from CBU didn't compete in these two meets.

Looks like only 10 men competed at Bryan Clay.

Since they’re the same weekend, they count as 1 meet. 11+3=14, so it’s a countable meet. Bylaw 17.24.5.1.1 in the D1 manual.

Unless I am missing something, it looks like they had 14 compete at only 3 meets.

WAC T&F Championships - 14 or more

Steve Scott Invite - 14 or more

Ben Brown Invite - 14 or more

Stanford - 11

Mike Fanelli - 3

Bryan Clay - 10

With them only having outdoor, I don't know their requirement. But, these are the only 3 meets that had 14 compete.

I don't believe your interpretation of this bylaw is correct.

They are… tons of schools use this rule, even big power 5 schools for meets like Bryan Clay, Mt Sac and Beach invites where each meet has different strengths for different event groups.

Steve Scott Invitational

In order for two different meets to be combined to satisfy sport sponsorship the meets must fall on the same day.

example - Stanford

Friday 9 compete

Saturday- 4 compete

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13 compete at Stanford

San Francisco is the same weekend

Saturday 9 compete

this scenario does not qualify as a meet that satisfies the rule. The ncaa will look at the weekend as 13 competed. I

Had San Fran been held on Friday, it WOULD have counted