They're not "canceled." Your thread title implies that they're being banned.
Technology changes. Get over it. The article even points to improved track technology and, in particular, the BU indoor track. Should we go back to cinder tracks as well?
The spikes are here to stay but, we will soon see the high stack road shoes confined to road races. The NFHS is strongly considering a stack height limit of 28mm to eliminate carbon plated road flats from high school meets and record consideration.
The shoes are a red herring. Improvements are due to smarter training at threshold paces. Go to Oslo and ask for a guy named Jakob, he can tell you more.
WA could test the effects of super shoes pretty easy. Ban them for one year, calculate the avg of top-100 times of the relevant events. Unban them the next year, repeat the process. Then ban them again, then unban them again just to be sure.
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on them inside haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
Yeah this is a pretty terrible analogy. It would be much better to compare it to the use of supplemental oxygen in mountaineering. An advancement that has made climbing Everest easier, but by no means a "Chairlift" up the mountain
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on them inside haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on the men’s side haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on them inside haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
That’s called “the apex of the era of undetectable EPO”
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on them inside haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
Chep’s not running 12:35 or 26:11 without super shoes. Kipchoge is not running 1:59:40 or 2:01:09 without super shoes. Period.
The (much) better analogy actually has happened, without Luddite complaining: the switch from leather mountaineering boots to plastic in the 1970s and 80s. Better protected and supported feet equals more Everest summits.
What really devalued Everest was the rampant commercialization. Imagine time trialing a sub-4 while being rope-towed by Josh Kerr or someone on a bike.
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on them inside haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
Chep’s not running 12:35 or 26:11 without super shoes. Kipchoge is not running 1:59:40 or 2:01:09 without super shoes. Period.
Changing the goalposts. The thread started about how the sub-4 mile is being diminished, not about the marathon, an event where high stack shoes like the vaporfly are allowed, (they’re not on the track in professional sports).
Even in the 5K, with all the improvements to the track surface, and all the improvements to training in our scientific knowledge, 8/10 fastest times were recorded like 20 to 30 years ago.
All this talk about super shoes, Roger Bannister, and diminishing the fastest mile times… and yet the world records for the both of mile and the 1500 m on them inside haven’t been broken in 25 years. Even on the women’s side, both records are only a fraction of a second faster than they were in the 90s
That’s called “the apex of the era of undetectable EPO”
I was waiting for this sort of comment. So which is it: are all the hallowed records of the 80s and 90s falling to super shoes in the 1500m/mile, or were all those athletes so dirty back in the day that inprovements in shoe tech are insignificant in comparison?
