Yuki finished 11th after starting a couple of seconds behind the elite seeded athletes. He started with the mass start. He should be listed as placing 11th in the official results, but he is not. This is bs. If you start when the gun goes off, your finishing place should be your finishing place and you should get whatever prize or bonus awarded for that position.
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Barabbas wrote:
Yuki finished 11th after starting a couple of seconds behind the elite seeded athletes. He started with the mass start. He should be listed as placing 11th in the official results, but he is not. This is bs. If you start when the gun goes off, your finishing place should be your finishing place and you should get whatever prize or bonus awarded for that position.
I saw that he ran around two hours 13 minutes.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Barabbas wrote:
Yuki finished 11th after starting a couple of seconds behind the elite seeded athletes. He started with the mass start. He should be listed as placing 11th in the official results, but he is not. This is bs. If you start when the gun goes off, your finishing place should be your finishing place and you should get whatever prize or bonus awarded for that position.
I saw that he ran around two hours 13 minutes.
He is listed as the winner of the Mass Marathon on 2:13:18, and representing GBR rather than JPN. 11th fastest for the event but 11th place was "awarded" to "elite" American Frank Lara. Nothing against Lara, but I would be ashamed of being listed as 11th place when someone else had the 11th fastest time. It is an idiotic thing to do.
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mass-athon wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
I saw that he ran around two hours 13 minutes.
He is listed as the winner of the Mass Marathon on 2:13:18, and representing GBR rather than JPN. 11th fastest for the event but 11th place was "awarded" to "elite" American Frank Lara. Nothing against Lara, but I would be ashamed of being listed as 11th place when someone else had the 11th fastest time. It is an idiotic thing to do.
Prize money doesn't go past 10th, so we're talking about participation prizes. Lara's not too ashamed to keep his appearance fee after dropping a 2:13, I bet. Who is Kawauchi's agent and how did he not get Yuki into the elite field while guys like Lara and Allen Monroe got elite field entry, if not appearance fees?
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YK is never gonna be the top marathoner except for flukes like Boston that year. But if he set his mind to breaking all these ultra records, like transcontinental and long trails and 7 day races, he could break them all easily. He's the missing link between running ultra and running fast.
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Bad Wigins wrote:
YK is never gonna be the top marathoner except for flukes like Boston that year. But if he set his mind to breaking all these ultra records, like transcontinental and long trails and 7 day races, he could break them all easily. He's the missing link between running ultra and running fast.
he continues to amaze, already has run 2:18, 2:07, 2:11 and now a 2:13 this year, he is one of a kind, he now has 117 marathons run, with 109 sub 2:20S, but even more impressive is he has 16 sub 2:10s (10 more at 2:10 as well) !!!!!!!!
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Americans who can't break 2:08 wrote:
Prize money doesn't go past 10th, so we're talking about participation prizes. Lara's not too ashamed to keep his appearance fee after dropping a 2:13, I bet. Who is Kawauchi's agent and how did he not get Yuki into the elite field while guys like Lara and Allen Monroe got elite field entry, if not appearance fees?
Frank Lara did not get appearance money to run London. He got bottles and some help with lodging and travel. London doesn't pay 2:11 guys with no palmarés to speak of.
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broken arrow wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
YK is never gonna be the top marathoner except for flukes like Boston that year. But if he set his mind to breaking all these ultra records, like transcontinental and long trails and 7 day races, he could break them all easily. He's the missing link between running ultra and running fast.
he continues to amaze, already has run 2:18, 2:07, 2:11 and now a 2:13 this year, he is one of a kind, he now has 117 marathons run, with 109 sub 2:20S, but even more impressive is he has 16 sub 2:10s (10 more at 2:10 as well) !!!!!!!!
You and your ghost friends just don't get it! The game is to WIN the marathon, not to run the most sub 2:10s. What's the prize for that?
There IS a prize for a lot of these extreme endurance things, which he could easily dominate in view of that busy marathon schedule of his. The guy just doesn't get tired.5120 -
Americans who can't break 2:08 wrote:
mass-athon wrote:
He is listed as the winner of the Mass Marathon on 2:13:18, and representing GBR rather than JPN. 11th fastest for the event but 11th place was "awarded" to "elite" American Frank Lara. Nothing against Lara, but I would be ashamed of being listed as 11th place when someone else had the 11th fastest time. It is an idiotic thing to do.
Prize money doesn't go past 10th, so we're talking about participation prizes. Lara's not too ashamed to keep his appearance fee after dropping a 2:13, I bet. Who is Kawauchi's agent and how did he not get Yuki into the elite field while guys like Lara and Allen Monroe got elite field entry, if not appearance fees?
I may be wrong and misreading translations but I think while Kawauchi was initially in the elite field there may be a rule in London that you can't race a marathon (maybe all-out race) within a certain amount of time. Osaka in Feb. may have been too close. I believe Mongolian NR holder Ser-Od Bat-Ochir was supposed to race London in 2010 but was taken out because of his recent marathon exploits - he then won the inaugural Brighton Marathon.
Basing much of this off of this:
Translated section on Google Translate he says "Withdrawal from the elite due to misunderstandings in communication due to the so-called 60 days and 30 days rule."
Also no special drinks I think which would have been another disadvantage. Seemed to take it all in his stride, got to love Yuki.
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Since when are their two races? Whether or not someone was paid an appearance fee or not, there should be *one* race, not two. This pisses me off.
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And he is on Elite startlist at BMO marathon on May 7th! This guy is insane!
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adobe wrote:
Americans who can't break 2:08 wrote:
Prize money doesn't go past 10th, so we're talking about participation prizes. Lara's not too ashamed to keep his appearance fee after dropping a 2:13, I bet. Who is Kawauchi's agent and how did he not get Yuki into the elite field while guys like Lara and Allen Monroe got elite field entry, if not appearance fees?
Frank Lara did not get appearance money to run London. He got bottles and some help with lodging and travel. London doesn't pay 2:11 guys with no palmarés to speak of.
That definitely makes sense, though subsidized lodging and travel seems closer to an appearance fee than a comped entry.
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Bad Wigins wrote:
YK is never gonna be the top marathoner except for flukes like Boston that year. But if he set his mind to breaking all these ultra records, like transcontinental and long trails and 7 day races, he could break them all easily. He's the missing link between running ultra and running fast.
He was pretty much the first clean finisher at London ...
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fast small man
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Bad Wigins wrote:
broken arrow wrote:
he continues to amaze, already has run 2:18, 2:07, 2:11 and now a 2:13 this year, he is one of a kind, he now has 117 marathons run, with 109 sub 2:20S, but even more impressive is he has 16 sub 2:10s (10 more at 2:10 as well) !!!!!!!!
You and your ghost friends just don't get it! The game is to WIN the marathon, not to run the most sub 2:10s. What's the prize for that?
There IS a prize for a lot of these extreme endurance things, which he could easily dominate in view of that busy marathon schedule of his. The guy just doesn't get tired.
I do get it. He is doing what he can do which is very unique, and by the he has won 45 marathons and one Major. I also don't know what you are referring to with "ghost friends". Yuki is very popular and has a lot of fans in the running world.
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Sean Norton wrote:
Since when are their two races? Whether or not someone was paid an appearance fee or not, there should be *one* race, not two. This pisses me off.
Usually when there are separate starts they say you can only win prize money if you're in the invited elite field.
It makes sense for women- you have the separate women's start and there are no men to pace you. If you start with the elite a smaller woman can tuck in with a group of men.
Something like this happened in Boston that horrible weather year when Desi won.
A woman in the main pack was sheltered by a group of men and had the time to finish 5th or something like that. The "real" 5th place woman was alone battling the weather.
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runn wrote:
Sean Norton wrote:
Since when are their two races? Whether or not someone was paid an appearance fee or not, there should be *one* race, not two. This pisses me off.
Usually when there are separate starts they say you can only win prize money if you're in the invited elite field.
It makes sense for women- you have the separate women's start and there are no men to pace you. If you start with the elite a smaller woman can tuck in with a group of men.
Something like this happened in Boston that horrible weather year when Desi won.
A woman in the main pack was sheltered by a group of men and had the time to finish 5th or something like that. The "real" 5th place woman was alone battling the weather.
Ok—fair point—in the case of the women’s race, where there is a completely different start. But I still don’t understand why that has to be the case with the men, where the starting groups are only a few meters apart, and the issue of assistance from sheltering is not in play. I guess it grates against my vision of the sport.
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How does he not start with the elites?
2:08 PR, etc.
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Bad Wigins wrote:
broken arrow wrote:
he continues to amaze, already has run 2:18, 2:07, 2:11 and now a 2:13 this year, he is one of a kind, he now has 117 marathons run, with 109 sub 2:20S, but even more impressive is he has 16 sub 2:10s (10 more at 2:10 as well) !!!!!!!!
You and your ghost friends just don't get it! The game is to WIN the marathon, not to run the most sub 2:10s. What's the prize for that?
There IS a prize for a lot of these extreme endurance things, which he could easily dominate in view of that busy marathon schedule of his. The guy just doesn't get tired.
Get a life.
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