Whose run was less believable, Hassan's or Kiptum's?

DC Doctor1 wrote:

briguy wrote:

This was written pre super shoes. So he was correct. He didn’t predict super shoes would be the cause but he was correct that we were nowhere near a 2hr marathon unless something new came out

You did not read the same post that I did. And I quote: “It probably won’t happen in my lifetime and I’m 39. There’s zero chance it happens before I’m 50. I’d be willing to bet anyone all of my eventual monthly social security checks I’ll get in 25 years that it hasn’t happened by the time I’m 65 as well.”

I think any who reads that should reasonably conclude that he never thought a sub 2 marathon would occur. Period. It was completely wrong.

The SSA himself wrote:

. But to come from nowhere and run 2:01 is completely ridiculous. Let's put this into perspective. This the same as someone nobody had seen before suddenly running 9.60 for the 100m or 3:26.04 for 1500m or 6.20 in PV. Nobody's don't suddenly do this. Because the logic exposes the fraud, why wouldn't they being doing this at an earlier time and earning millions with their outlier talent? The answer is that the talent is new. Then we ask where did they get this new talent?

GettingFasterDude wrote:

It doesn’t surprise me that someone with Hassan’s Gold medal ability in shorter distances that would be able to hang on to the lead pack. Once the leaders let that happen, it was no surprise that the world record holder in the mile would win in a sprint finish.

Kiptum, on the other hand, looked like something entirely freakish, especially with that second 21K. But we’ve seen others run 2:01:xx on fast courses before, including him, so it’s not entirely unheard of.

I know what you’re getting at, though.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

..likable as she may be, I definitely think Hassan doped to reach her 2019 form. Closing the Doha 10k with a 3:59 1500 (!), and then front running a 3:51.95 1500 (last 800 in 2:01.8, last 400 in 59.3) to finish 2.27 seconds clear of Faith Kipyegon? Pretty unbelievable if you ask me.

?.?.? wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

..likable as she may be, I definitely think Hassan doped to reach her 2019 form. Closing the Doha 10k with a 3:59 1500 (!), and then front running a 3:51.95 1500 (last 800 in 2:01.8, last 400 in 59.3) to finish 2.27 seconds clear of Faith Kipyegon? Pretty unbelievable if you ask me.

Because no woman can be that good?

Why not? And what do you think dope actually does that is so magical?

?.?.? wrote:

MatthewXCountry wrote:

Hassan literally stoped in the middle of the race to stretch. Like a complete freaking stand still stop to do quad stretches. That is what is so insane to me. Her winning is not the surprising thing. I've never seen someone come back from stopping in a marathon. All common wisdome says if you have to stop due to pain in a marathon, you are done.

Ever been wrong before?

Steffe wrote:

MatthewXCountry wrote:

Hassan literally stoped in the middle of the race to stretch. Like a complete freaking stand still stop to do quad stretches. That is what is so insane to me. Her winning is not the surprising thing. I've never seen someone come back from stopping in a marathon. All common wisdome says if you have to stop due to pain in a marathon, you are done.

Are you sure she didn't stop figuratively?