Can someone explain why the Young's can't race at Arcadia? What races are they allowed to compete in?
You have to be a member of your high school team to run at Arcadia. The Youngs are training on their own with Sean Brosnan, so they aren't eligible for Arcadia.
The Youngs also aren't eligible for the California state qualification meets.
They can run in pro meets and in some high school meets like the Nike/New Balance/Brooks PR meets at the end of the year since those meets are outside of California high school jurisdiction.
Is Tanya Brosnan no longer coaching at NP? I can't imagine that Stanford is too thrilled about their star recruits being coached by the head of a rival program. If true, how is this not an NCAA violation for tampering?
I can't imagine that Stanford is too thrilled about their star recruits being coached by the head of a rival program. If true, how is this not an NCAA violation for tampering?
I believe that Tanya Brosnan is still coaching at Newbury Park, although I've heard she may leave at the end of the year.
I have no idea if Stanford is thrilled or not about the Youngs being coached by the UCLA coach.
In any case, high school students are allowed to run for a club team. And a college coach is allowed to coach a club team that includes high school runners. So there isn't any NCAA violation.
Is Tanya Brosnan no longer coaching at NP? I can't imagine that Stanford is too thrilled about their star recruits being coached by the head of a rival program. If true, how is this not an NCAA violation for tampering?
The perplexing thing to me is that they are clinging to their coach like this, yet they are not following him to college. It really must be about scholarships? From running at UCLA, I know UCLA would not give them a full ride because they spend more on sprints and field events and maybe Stanford gave full ride since they focus on distance events with their money? Couldn't Brosnan just get them some additional NIL money to make up the difference? Pull some strings at Nike to get them $50k each per year.
I can't imagine that Stanford is too thrilled about their star recruits being coached by the head of a rival program. If true, how is this not an NCAA violation for tampering?
I believe that Tanya Brosnan is still coaching at Newbury Park, although I've heard she may leave at the end of the year.
I have no idea if Stanford is thrilled or not about the Youngs being coached by the UCLA coach.
In any case, high school students are allowed to run for a club team. And a college coach is allowed to coach a club team that includes high school runners. So there isn't any NCAA violation.
Thank you for that clarification. I didn't consider the club angle.
This question does not relate to the Young’s or Bronson whatsoever, but I was wondering if a college coach has a club as well - are the club athletes allowed to practice on the track with that coach’s college athletes at the same time. Say it was a DII or DIII program. Getting pulled along in intervals, etc. thanks for any clarification.
Is Tanya Brosnan no longer coaching at NP? I can't imagine that Stanford is too thrilled about their star recruits being coached by the head of a rival program. If true, how is this not an NCAA violation for tampering?
The perplexing thing to me is that they are clinging to their coach like this, yet they are not following him to college. It really must be about scholarships? From running at UCLA, I know UCLA would not give them a full ride because they spend more on sprints and field events and maybe Stanford gave full ride since they focus on distance events with their money? Couldn't Brosnan just get them some additional NIL money to make up the difference? Pull some strings at Nike to get them $50k each per year.
UCLA gives full scholarships to distance and will continue to do so. Lex and Leo accepted a committed to Stanford before Brosnan took the UCLA job.
Academically Stanford is hard to turn down for some people. It has nothing to do with coaching and athletics. it’s as simple as academics
No they aren't smart. They are fast. And they aren't rich. They got a need based discount and a scholarship. They likely would have followed Brosnan to UCLA if they could.
No they aren't smart. They are fast. And they aren't rich. They got a need based discount and a scholarship. They likely would have followed Brosnan to UCLA if they could.
No they aren't smart. They are fast. And they aren't rich. They got a need based discount and a scholarship. They likely would have followed Brosnan to UCLA if they could.
They still can. Simply withdraw Stanford, enroll UCLA. Or transfer after 1 semester like McDonnel, Frias. UCLA w/ Brosnan was not an option when they picked Stanford.
That said, I think they will be happy at Stanford and contribute to a podium xc team next year, potentially champs.
If I was a college coach, I would want my incoming athletes coached by the best coach possible, assuming their training progress was being considered. That's so stupid and selfish to think kids should be held back when they are Young(er) because their current coach might be better than their next coach...
No they aren't smart. They are fast. And they aren't rich. They got a need based discount and a scholarship. They likely would have followed Brosnan to UCLA if they could.
They still can. Simply withdraw Stanford, enroll UCLA. Or transfer after 1 semester like McDonnel, Frias. UCLA w/ Brosnan was not an option when they picked Stanford.
That said, I think they will be happy at Stanford and contribute to a podium xc team next year, potentially champs.
Stanford has a ton of talent that isn’t set to graduate. Are they really projected to even be top 7 as true freshmen, let alone top 5?
Clearly they have the talent to get there, I’m just referring to their first year.
They still can. Simply withdraw Stanford, enroll UCLA. Or transfer after 1 semester like McDonnel, Frias. UCLA w/ Brosnan was not an option when they picked Stanford.
That said, I think they will be happy at Stanford and contribute to a podium xc team next year, potentially champs.
Stanford has a ton of talent that isn’t set to graduate. Are they really projected to even be top 7 as true freshmen, let alone top 5?
Clearly they have the talent to get there, I’m just referring to their first year.
I would be very surprised, barring injury of course, if a kid who easily won the USA junior XC title as a high school senior against some pretty good college freshmen wasn’t in Stanford’s top 7 this fall. Nico was NAU’s top XC runner as a true freshman, albeit when the championship was held in March instead of November.
Stanford has a ton of talent that isn’t set to graduate. Are they really projected to even be top 7 as true freshmen, let alone top 5?
Clearly they have the talent to get there, I’m just referring to their first year.
I would be very surprised, barring injury of course, if a kid who easily won the USA junior XC title as a high school senior against some pretty good college freshmen wasn’t in Stanford’s top 7 this fall. Nico was NAU’s top XC runner as a true freshman, albeit when the championship was held in March instead of November.
Also, there may be some runners not returning to Stanford next fall in favor of moving on to bigger things.