I admire Grant greatly. But, will he be able to run the 2024 Olympic Standard next year or this year? He looks fresh off the Indoor season with Fast 1500/3000s.
But, the Olympic Standards have just gotten harder and Woody/Klecker didn't get them this year.
But, could Grant break 27 without supershoes or conditions like he had at Sound running last year?
This is dumb. Yes. I think he could, but he won't have to. They will all be wearing super shoes. I want whatever you're smoking this fine Thursday night.
Fisher is only behind maybe 10 guys internationally in the 10k. All of those folks, on top of the thousands behind them will be wearing SS's. Inane, pointless argument.
Yeah. I dont think he would break 35. I know the fastest Ethiopians ran with supershoes as well but 10-15 sec slower than Fisher, however they actually run faster without supershoes you see. They only help Fisher.
I admire Grant greatly. But, will he be able to run the 2024 Olympic Standard next year or this year? He looks fresh off the Indoor season with Fast 1500/3000s.
But, the Olympic Standards have just gotten harder and Woody/Klecker didn't get them this year.
But, could Grant break 27 without supershoes or conditions like he had at Sound running last year?
This is dumb. Yes. I think he could, but he won't have to. They will all be wearing super shoes. I want whatever you're smoking this fine Thursday night.
Fisher is only behind maybe 10 guys internationally in the 10k. All of those folks, on top of the thousands behind them will be wearing SS's. Inane, pointless argument.
What are you smoking? Fisher behind ten guys? So no matter if he was clearly the fastest in 2022 and one of the fastest of all time, and no matter he failed tactically yet came in 4th place in the WC final, barely edged out by the three in front....he is behind 10? Lol
your book is wrong then...I'm a fan of Grant but in no world would I ever put him above Cheptegei, Kiplimo and Aregawi in the 10k. Barega should also be above him but he seems off so I'll say Grant is above him for now. Fisher has also finished ahead of Aregawi in the recent 10k, but Aregawi has shown incredible form this year which Fisher so far hasn't. Zero argument for Fisher to be above chep and kip.
your book is wrong then...I'm a fan of Grant but in no world would I ever put him above Cheptegei, Kiplimo and Aregawi in the 10k. Barega should also be above him but he seems off so I'll say Grant is above him for now. Fisher has also finished ahead of Aregawi in the recent 10k, but Aregawi has shown incredible form this year which Fisher so far hasn't. Zero argument for Fisher to be above chep and kip.
How interesting. If they are without a doubt faster than Fisher than they should clearly be able to run faster. Which they haven't been able to do. No one is faster in the last couple of years. No one . Not Cheptegei. Not Kiplimo. Zero argument for Kiplimo above Fisher. Same for Cheptegei
All I'm trying get at is, The US is screwed. Grant is currently like Solinsky the year after Solinsky's Insane Season. 2022 might've been his peak year.
Plus, based on our 5K runners. It don't seem like the US could magically deliver 3 27:00 10K guys in 15 months time. Given that we have only 3 Sub-27 guys in our history. All of which ran in separate eras.
This is dumb. Yes. I think he could, but he won't have to. They will all be wearing super shoes. I want whatever you're smoking this fine Thursday night.
Fisher is only behind maybe 10 guys internationally in the 10k. All of those folks, on top of the thousands behind them will be wearing SS's. Inane, pointless argument.
Ehh what?
Without the stuff the Ten provided. I doubt Fisher would've gone below Rupp's 26:44.
Give those conditions to Barega, Worku, Aregawi (Who already tied on the roads), Kejelcha, Kiplimo, Krop, and a couple more
This is dumb. Yes. I think he could, but he won't have to. They will all be wearing super shoes. I want whatever you're smoking this fine Thursday night.
Fisher is only behind maybe 10 guys internationally in the 10k. All of those folks, on top of the thousands behind them will be wearing SS's. Inane, pointless argument.
Ehh what?
Without the stuff the Ten provided. I doubt Fisher would've gone below Rupp's 26:44.
Give those conditions to Barega, Worku, Aregawi (Who already tied on the roads), Kejelcha, Kiplimo, Krop, and a couple more
And Grant wouldn't even be in the Top 10 anymore.
Barega, Kejelcha and team are so far behind Grant it's laughable. Those guys may be at Kincaid level but definitely not Fisher.
28:23 You guys are dumb if you cant see how much they help. I ran a 428 mile in novablasts..in training..haven’t even touched the speed work. Wake up running dorks.
When Kiplimo hit 26:33 with no kind of pacemakers, wavelights, supershoes, etc... What would Grant have ran under those conditions is what I'm asking
Probably 26:33 give or take a second or two, Kiplimo could not run away from him, Fisher has run 7:27 for 3000 and 12:46 Those are super elite times, if Fisher was Kenyan or Ethiopian with those times, everyone would say, I don't know it is a toss up. We are so used to seeing African's Win, when The needle in the Hatstack Non African is great, we do not believe it, It was the same With Jakob Ingebritsen, he ran very good times but everybody expected Tim Cheriyot or another Kenyan to beat Him, now we are suprised if he loses.