Why is Matthew Centrowitz Jr. no longer with BTC?

Probably because he didn’t want to move to Eugene.

also I saw he was training with NAU today but i don’t think anyone’s made a thread about that. Thought that was pretty cool

Who cares. He changes groups every 1.5 years. Does his own thing. Does anyone really think he was training with the rest of Jerry's runners anyway.

He went to school in Eugene, twice.

Because Jerry is / was coaching at least one doper. Double digit people have the group in the last few years.

Funny how none of them are running near their peak from a few years ago. It’s like they were doping and stopped or something

Like Jager after 2016, when he appeared with comical 5 out 3 stars on the likely doping list?

Grant fisher seems to have been running pretty well.

Yeah except for last year when two guys ran 26:33 and 26:34, and the rest of them all ran low 27s. Not to mention the other crazy times Fisher was running.

Do people on this board even follow the sport at all?

Probably didn’t want to train with Cooper Teare after Teare and Silva spent the last few years poking fun at him on podcasts and on Instagram

I also believe it likely had to do with Pooper Teare joining BTC.

I’m fairly certain one of the reasons Centrowitz left NOP before it was dismantled was because he lobbied against NOP signing Clayton Murphy and they did anyway, forcing him to leave in protest.

Taking into account age and injuries, who are you referring to specifically?

he didnt final in tokyo. Maybe he felt jerrys training wasnt conducive to the rounds.

Wow. Way to bring up an old topic.

Basically all so-called BTC babes. More injuries? That happens when you have to cut back on burritos.

Interestingly some BTC men are still going strong. Curious. Were they not on the burrito diet, or were the burritos less important for them?

Exactly. Responded sooner than I could. Sure they had a few guys run well recently. Less than before. And almost all their babes have regressed. You can’t say taking into account injuries. Maybe they are injured because they don’t have whatever they were taking before.

Because he's old and slow and his ego can't handle it.

Your bias is blinding your judgement. Injuries happen to everyone- both clean as well as dirty athletes. Your opinion is already set, and anything that is said or happens will only further your personal narrative. That’s it. It’s as simple as that. The crazy thing is, you’ve never met any of these people, let alone spent time with them. You know only what you’ve read, and likely only what you’ve read here on letsrun. Like you, many poorly educated opinions are stated as fact here, which only serves to propagate bad information. I mean, think about it: you’re really accusing someone of having an Achilles injury or ankle surgery as being evidence of using drugs?

Frerichs- injured ankle from Pre last year, recent surgery on it

Fraser- coming off of Achilles surgery, training on her own in SF. Can’t see her staying on team much longer

Schweizer- injured at world champs. Surgery again. Long comeback ahead

Seccafien- meniscus tear. Looooong road back to fitness.

This sounds like the injury report for a football team and not running. What the hell are Jerry and Shalane doing to these women?

I’m glad you clarified that this was about Matt Centrowitz JR and not his very old and very retired-from-professional-running father.