two monsters in action but good monsters they are
Klecker and Obiri training in Boulder, contrasting styles
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We had The Balance Runner break down Obiri's form for you all:
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Does OAC think we all need to see daily videos set to music with them running around the track? Seriously-Who cares? A narcissistic bunch. and the interview clips are even worse.
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Ghost1 wrote:
two monsters in action but good monsters they are
Are you a monster?
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Bo-OA-ring wrote:
Does OAC think we all need to see daily videos set to music with them running around the track? Seriously-Who cares? A narcissistic bunch. and the interview clips are even worse.
Yes how dare they market themselves. On must be furious.
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I never saw a photo of Bill Rodgers with a foot on the ground, and never a photo of Joe without a foot on the ground. So this video is nice.
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This is Jim Kiler wrote:
I never saw a photo of Bill Rodgers with a foot on the ground, and never a photo of Joe without a foot on the ground. So this video is nice.
What I find interesting is that if you look at Helen run and you look at her style and you asked a nonathletic person not involved in athletics to judge her style I think most people would say she does not look good in action which proves that the evaluation of style in distance running can be subjective but should not supersede efficacy and speed overall.
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Bo-OA-ring wrote:
Does OAC think we all need to see daily videos set to music with them running around the track? Seriously-Who cares? A narcissistic bunch. and the interview clips are even worse.
god forbid a professional training group posts content of atheltes training to engage with the fans.
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I see monster is defined as: an imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly and frightening.
is this how you see them?59 -
Kid from somewhere wrote:
Bo-OA-ring wrote:
Does OAC think we all need to see daily videos set to music with them running around the track? Seriously-Who cares? A narcissistic bunch. and the interview clips are even worse.
god forbid a professional training group posts content of atheltes training to engage with the fans.
Some people are just miserable human beings
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Love Helen but gawd that upper body form is awfully wasteful. I suspect she must have picked it up in childhood and was never adjusted. I know people say don't adjust a person's running form but does that apply to the upper body as well? She's expending a lot of energy swinging those arms so wildly as though she's swatting mosquitoes.
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John Macardle wrote:
Bo-OA-ring wrote:
Does OAC think we all need to see daily videos set to music with them running around the track? Seriously-Who cares? A narcissistic bunch. and the interview clips are even worse.
Yes how dare they market themselves. On must be furious.
Agree that these videos are boring. Anyone who actually gets a kick out of watching people running around the track every day needs to get a life. The fact that this group has to videotape themselves constantly is beyond egotistical. Not effective marketing
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Hdiere wrote:
I see monster is defined as: an imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly and frightening.
is this how you see them?Um, I think he means some combination of definitions 3 & 5…
And of course as a fan I prefer OAC post videos like this…what is the motivation for a person to hate them for it? Bizarre.
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John Macardle wrote:
Bo-OA-ring wrote:
Does OAC think we all need to see daily videos set to music with them running around the track? Seriously-Who cares? A narcissistic bunch. and the interview clips are even worse.
Yes how dare they market themselves. On must be furious.
Matt Taylor produced content like this almost 20 years ago. At the time, it was novel, and running nerds like us had reason to eat it up. Now, it's become rote--generic music, some workout footage, runners gabbing pre- and post-run, etc.
So while it is marketing, it is no longer inherently interesting, and therefore not effective marketing.55 -
dudewhat? wrote:
Love Helen but gawd that upper body form is awfully wasteful. I suspect she must have picked it up in childhood and was never adjusted. I know people say don't adjust a person's running form but does that apply to the upper body as well? She's expending a lot of energy swinging those arms so wildly as though she's swatting mosquitoes.
I posted in the other thread about her doing the Boston marathon, but isn't there a lot of up and down to her form as well, or am I seeing things?
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dudewhat? wrote:
Love Helen but gawd that upper body form is awfully wasteful. I suspect she must have picked it up in childhood and was never adjusted. I know people say don't adjust a person's running form but does that apply to the upper body as well? She's expending a lot of energy swinging those arms so wildly as though she's swatting mosquitoes.
Hellen's On coach is the guy who, when he was already a two-time Olympian and AR holder at 5K, had a coach who wanted him to hold his thumbs differently. So he might not be a big advocate for late-career form remakes.
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
Hdiere wrote:
I see monster is defined as: an imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly and frightening.
is this how you see them?Um, I think he means some combination of definitions 3 & 5…
And of course as a fan I prefer OAC post videos like this…what is the motivation for a person to hate them for it? Bizarre.
OK so I guess Joe Biden, who I voted for, is a monster. I guess Serena Williams is a monster. I guess Tiger Woods is a monster. I guess Warren Buffett is a monster. Very strange word usage.
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Matt the Tailor wrote:
John Macardle wrote:
Yes how dare they market themselves. On must be furious.
Matt Taylor produced content like this almost 20 years ago. At the time, it was novel, and running nerds like us had reason to eat it up. Now, it's become rote--generic music, some workout footage, runners gabbing pre- and post-run, etc.
So while it is marketing, it is no longer inherently interesting, and therefore not effective marketing.
If running isn't "inherently" interesting to you then of course videos of an elite team training won't be "inherently" interesting.
On running's IG has over a million followers. That's not ineffective. But, since you're a big time guy in the industry, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to effectively market a running team.
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John Macardle wrote:
If running isn't "inherently" interesting to you then of course videos of an elite team training won't be "inherently" interesting.
On running's IG has over a million followers. That's not ineffective. But, since you're a big time guy in the industry, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to effectively market a running team.
So what's the point of "marketing" a running team? What exactly is OAC selling us? Nothing. Again, these videos are self serving, with OAC (and others) thinking too highly of themselves that anyone is interested in watching people doing repeats on a track. Wow!! People running - that's novel!
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John Macardle wrote:
Matt the Tailor wrote:
Matt Taylor produced content like this almost 20 years ago. At the time, it was novel, and running nerds like us had reason to eat it up. Now, it's become rote--generic music, some workout footage, runners gabbing pre- and post-run, etc.
So while it is marketing, it is no longer inherently interesting, and therefore not effective marketing.
If running isn't "inherently" interesting to you then of course videos of an elite team training won't be "inherently" interesting.
On running's IG has over a million followers. That's not ineffective. But, since you're a big time guy in the industry, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to effectively market a running team.
I would start by having an up-to-date team page on On's site.22 -
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
I never saw a photo of Bill Rodgers with a foot on the ground, and never a photo of Joe without a foot on the ground. So this video is nice.
You stole the quote about Rodgers from a magazine or interviewer a long time ago.
And, you haven't seen many photos of Bill as there are plenty with him showing one foot on the ground.
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