If Tuohy goes sub 4 and sub 15 outdoors, she should go pro.

She can run sub 3.55, all she needs to do is call Shelby.

Why do you want her to go pro and race about twice a year?

She should just go pro anyway. She is sleepwalking to NCAA titles and records now. Rack a couple more up outdoors and then join the big leagues. Would love to see her on OAC, but Ritz has been open about not wanting people from the same nationality competing for teams.

Ritz doesn't have a 5000m runner. Alicia Monson is a 10k runner than a 5000m runner and Tuohy is a 5000m runner than a 10k runner. Tuohy could also be a 1500m/miler for Ritz. That if they win the bid off.

How come Shelby didn't give the cheat code to her teammates?

She is a pro already w/ adidas. It's not 1972 anymore.

Gee, isn’t this exact same thread already here somewhere?

She’ll do what she want to do. She’s pretty smart so she more or Han likely is consulting her parents, coaches, financial advisors, people within academia, athletes that are currently professionals, etc. It will be a carefully contemplated and weighed out decision. The thoughts of people here will not matter.

My own 2¢ on it are that after she earns her degree, and I am not sure when that is, she’ll go pro, regardless of if she has remaining eligibility or not. If I were to guess where she ends up, I would say Flagstaff and being coached by Mike Smith.

From what I have hypothesized listening to interviews from Dathan and the coffee club, he seems most protective of Alicia and Joe. Not saying he doesn’t care about everyone else….. obviously, Ollie has been the most successful of the group thus far(nuguse might overtake this role this season but let’s just say the past 2 years) and Ollie constantly brings up that he needs to get “teammate points” and basically that Joe and Alicia are golden children.

Maybe it’s because they’re in the event that used to be his or that they’re going to be marathoners one day but I don’t know if they would take her right now that they have Josette to do some of the work with Alicia but not necessarily challenge her over 5/10k atm.

I could see her taking an Adidas deal moving to Flagstaff with former teammates: Elly Henes and Hannah Steelman. I’m going to Mike Smith elite tho.

Sorry this is a chaotic post but my prediction assuming she has 1-2 semesters of classes before she can graduate:

Runs outdoors and goes for at least sub 15. Idk about sub 4 but could see 3:59-4:03 happening. Runs usas. If she makes the team, goes pro then but still has classes so stays with henes. If not, defends cross country title, graduates a semester early and goes pro in December giving her 6 months until the Olympic trials and goes and trains with a team.

Feel like I read somewhere on here that she is a Senior right now academically

I think the longest she'll stay in the NCAA is the end of XC season, but I think it's more likely she goes pro this summer, especially if she makes a Worlds team. Just from a business standpoint, she's literally perfect: She was making waves in middle school. In HS, she was setting records left and right as a 15 year old, and winning every race in sight for 3 years straight. She struggled with injury at the end of HS/start of college, overcame that, and then became just as dominant in the NCAA as she was in HS. She has proven consistency, she's overcome adversity, she's become the best ever at every level she's competed, she has 100k Instagram followers, she's pretty, she's young (turns 21 tomorrow via Wikipedia; happy early bday), she's super smart (engineering major?), has worked out how to healthily balance life as a public figure, has a good support system, and based on everything I've ever seen from her, just seems like a really good person. The only thing that could up her market value at this point would be making the World team, and I'm sure as soon as she's done with NCAAs, shoe companies are gonna be offering literally stupid amounts of money to sign her.

I'd love to see her join OAC since they've been so successful and being able to train with Monson and Andrews. Norris has run 3:59 and came 3rd in the DL final, and Monson is one of the best in the world right now from 3k-10k. Touhy being able to train with them would probably have her on the same progression as Nuguse. The only thing is that Norris is kinda doing the 1500/5k and Monson is 5k/10k, so if Ritz wants to continue the only-one-athlete-per-country-per-event thing, Touhy probably can't join. I really hope he makes an exception though, because they're all still good enough to make a team, and it would mean the best distance athlete, and one of the best mid-d athletes in the country, both of whom are still young, would be able to train with/mentor probably the most talented woman the US has ever produced. I get why Ritz is against it though. I can already imagine Monson-Touhy-Norris going 1-3-4 in the 5k at the OTs, and Monson feeling obligated to only run the 10k at the Olympics so that Norris could be on the team.

She should transfer to Stanford as a grad student and get a real degree

From a financial and training standpoint why go pro?

She already has great training partners, coach, facilities, trainers, etc at NC State. Go pro and she loses all of this.

Already making NIL money also why give it up?

The title of being pro simply isn’t worth it in our sport right now when you lose all this extra stuff and go solo. Plus she gets plenty more race opportunities as well as decent opportunities against the best.

Just want to point out that Simpson didn't go pro after running those times and making a team.

With NIL there really is no reason to go early. At the very least she will continue to compete until she graduates, which might be after xc season.

She is doing better stuff already that woukd be detected. No upside as a pro.

There is a $1M reason. She could get injured tomorrow and never get a contract.

NIL money is not the same as a pro contract. And why do you think she wont have good training partners, coaches, facilities, trainers as a pro? If anything these will all get better as a pro, particularly training partners. Its clear shes progressing past the competition level of the NCAAs at this point. If she is finished academically there is little reason to stay in college after that.

Someone here said she changed her major from engineer to business.

She needs to put herself out there more publicly. She could have way more than 100K followers on IG.

Many engineering students can't cut it amd change to business. Se isn't stupid, just an average student.