Obviously I’m missing something, but can someone explain how Tyreek Hill was able to compete in a Masters race when he’s 29 years old? I have tried to sift through all the noise about this race both positive and negative, but I can’t find anyone addressing this question.
How is Tyreek Hill Masters? He’s 29!
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Think of Masters as being AG (as opposed to pro) competition. We’re going to see that terminology used more and more in Athletics.
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He competed against people his own age in a new category. Why would they make such a category? My guess is that this is a pipeline for non-elites to participate and eventually graduate to the more usual master's age group categories.
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pipeline wrote:
He competed against people his own age in a new category. Why would they make such a category? My guess is that this is a pipeline for non-elites to participate and eventually graduate to the more usual master's age group categories.
It's an attempt to keep post college aged kids running track .track though just doesn't scale well.
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I do not get it wrote:
Obviously I’m missing something, but can someone explain how Tyreek Hill was able to compete in a Masters race when he’s 29 years old? I have tried to sift through all the noise about this race both positive and negative, but I can’t find anyone addressing this question.
Because he would've punched all the women at the track if he didn't get his way.
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Ah ok that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
I am so appalled at the terrible journalism of the major outlets (ESPN, CBS Sports, SI) who publish headlines making it seem as if he won the USATF champs. Good for him for competing in his offseason but put it in context please.
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Swimming has its masters starting at 25. It is a remnant from when people would go the Olympics as collegians or just out of college and then retire as they could not make money swimming.
In road racing, masters is 40+.
Yeah maybe "masters" just sounds better than the under 30 championships.
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It makes no sense for 29-year-olds to be competing in any group other than "open." Dude is like 3 years older than the average competitor in the last Olympic 100m final.
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He is not a Master. He competed in a Masters meet that allowed sub Masters.
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why is this a thing? wrote:
It makes no sense for 29-year-olds to be competing in any group other than "open." Dude is like 3 years older than the average competitor in the last Olympic 100m final.
Ego, no way he could deal with a big L.
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he's not wrote:
He is not a Master. He competed in a Masters meet that allowed sub Masters.
I thought you were just spouting off
But you are actually right, sub-masters is 25-29 and then I believe 30-34 with masters starting at 35+
It is kinda weird to call someone a "sub-master" when they are in their physical prime, but i guess that's USATF for you
I'd remove my downvote above and change to an upvote if I could
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Not An Expert wrote:
Think of Masters as being AG (as opposed to pro) competition. We’re going to see that terminology used more and more in Athletics.
What does AG stand for? I'm not familiar with this abbreviation.
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kjhglll wrote:
Not An Expert wrote:
Think of Masters as being AG (as opposed to pro) competition. We’re going to see that terminology used more and more in Athletics.
What does AG stand for? I'm not familiar with this abbreviation.
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kjhglll wrote:
Not An Expert wrote:
Think of Masters as being AG (as opposed to pro) competition. We’re going to see that terminology used more and more in Athletics.
What does AG stand for? I'm not familiar with this abbreviation.
You don't know what age-grading means?
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pipeline wrote:
He competed against people his own age in a new category. Why would they make such a category? My guess is that this is a pipeline for non-elites to participate and eventually graduate to the more usual master's age group categories.
I think a lot of the reason they have the under 40 AG's is just to get people at the meet.
TBH, I would have loved a competition like this when I was 25-39 years old.
And think about it- you pay to compete, you likely stay in a hotel and eat in restaurants.
That's an economic impact on a city. It's good for everyone.
My only issue with this is how the general public thinks he won the national championship because of the way it was reported.
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oopsie my bad wrote:
he's not wrote:
He is not a Master. He competed in a Masters meet that allowed sub Masters.
I thought you were just spouting off
But you are actually right, sub-masters is 25-29 and then I believe 30-34 with masters starting at 35+
It is kinda weird to call someone a "sub-master" when they are in their physical prime, but i guess that's USATF for you
I'd remove my downvote above and change to an upvote if I could
Master's was always 40+. That's the way it started and road races usually have a master's winner then the age group winners, too.
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runn wrote:
pipeline wrote:
He competed against people his own age in a new category. Why would they make such a category? My guess is that this is a pipeline for non-elites to participate and eventually graduate to the more usual master's age group categories.
I think a lot of the reason they have the under 40 AG's is just to get people at the meet.
TBH, I would have loved a competition like this when I was 25-39 years old.
And think about it- you pay to compete, you likely stay in a hotel and eat in restaurants.
That's an economic impact on a city. It's good for everyone.
My only issue with this is how the general public thinks he won the national championship because of the way it was reported.
The general public doesn't now who Hill is either. Anyone into sports enough to know who Hill is will know he didn't actually win anything important.
Alan
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Runningart2004 wrote:
runn wrote:
I think a lot of the reason they have the under 40 AG's is just to get people at the meet.
TBH, I would have loved a competition like this when I was 25-39 years old.
And think about it- you pay to compete, you likely stay in a hotel and eat in restaurants.
That's an economic impact on a city. It's good for everyone.
My only issue with this is how the general public thinks he won the national championship because of the way it was reported.
The general public doesn't now who Hill is either. Anyone into sports enough to know who Hill is will know he didn't actually win anything important.
Alan
He's not a Tom Brady famous but they know him. I teach and kids were asking me about it- especially football players who thought he was the true national champion.
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technically for USATF, Masters track and field is designated at 25years old, As of 2021. Before that , it was a standard 30+ with classes every 5 years. Road Racing Masters starts at 40, with sub masters at 35.
That designation is for those non pro, or not open event folks. Your 26 yo's running at the Olympics aren't bothering to compete in Masters events, even if they are eligible.
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I wish Justin Gatlin would have been there to show what real masters track speed would look like...
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