In Eliud’s track prime it could be Eliud winning but in 2023 Eliud could not get away from Jakob so Jakob wins with a faster finish just by following Eliud.
10K I think Kipchoge wins.He can still run low 27 mins/high 26mins for 10k at his peak of marathon training. I think Jakob's raw endurance is not yet peaked.For 5K I would go with Jakob.
I'm kind of surprised this is a debate. Kipchoge likely could not beat the world's best right now in a half marathon. He just doesn't have the speed. We would expect him to beat Ingebrigsten in a 10k?
You have to remember Kipchoge relies on being able to ratchet down the pace after a long, grueling 18-20 miles in a marathon. He couldn't really do this in a 10K.
I know Ing hasn't really run the 10k, but I suspect he's going to be better at it than we realize. He relies on threshold training, and although is good in the mile/1500, he's got better endurance than speed. He will excel at the distance and is a contender for gold this year if he runs it.
I suspect the distance where kipchoge and Ing meet is like a 15k or a 10 mile
I'm kind of surprised this is a debate. Kipchoge likely could not beat the world's best right now in a half marathon. He just doesn't have the speed. We would expect him to beat Ingebrigsten in a 10k?
You have to remember Kipchoge relies on being able to ratchet down the pace after a long, grueling 18-20 miles in a marathon. He couldn't really do this in a 10K.
I know Ing hasn't really run the 10k, but I suspect he's going to be better at it than we realize. He relies on threshold training, and although is good in the mile/1500, he's got better endurance than speed. He will excel at the distance and is a contender for gold this year if he runs it.
I suspect the distance where kipchoge and Ing meet is like a 15k or a 10 mile
possible. or it might even be something like 15 miles. it's unknowable, but probable Jakob could be sub 59 in a half
it's unknowable, but probable Jakob could be sub 59 in a half
Potentially. If Kerr can run 63:44, I don't think it's completely unreasonable. I think eventually he will run sub 60, but if the race was run today, my money is on Kipchoge in the half
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I'm kind of surprised this is a debate. Kipchoge likely could not beat the world's best right now in a half marathon. He just doesn't have the speed. We would expect him to beat Ingebrigsten in a 10k?
You have to remember Kipchoge relies on being able to ratchet down the pace after a long, grueling 18-20 miles in a marathon. He couldn't really do this in a 10K.
I know Ing hasn't really run the 10k, but I suspect he's going to be better at it than we realize. He relies on threshold training, and although is good in the mile/1500, he's got better endurance than speed. He will excel at the distance and is a contender for gold this year if he runs it.
I suspect the distance where kipchoge and Ing meet is like a 15k or a 10 mile
There is no way Jakob is going for a 5/10 double this year and he probably never will. The best in the world equals “good”?
I'm kind of surprised this is a debate. Kipchoge likely could not beat the world's best right now in a half marathon. He just doesn't have the speed. We would expect him to beat Ingebrigsten in a 10k?
You have to remember Kipchoge relies on being able to ratchet down the pace after a long, grueling 18-20 miles in a marathon. He couldn't really do this in a 10K.
I know Ing hasn't really run the 10k, but I suspect he's going to be better at it than we realize. He relies on threshold training, and although is good in the mile/1500, he's got better endurance than speed. He will excel at the distance and is a contender for gold this year if he runs it.
I suspect the distance where kipchoge and Ing meet is like a 15k or a 10 mile
There is no way Jakob is going for a 5/10 double this year and he probably never will. The best in the world equals “good”?
agree. the only way we ever see Jakob in a 10000 is if it is on the last day, after the 1500/5 has been completed. He will never be in it when it is on day 1 or 2.
it's unknowable, but probable Jakob could be sub 59 in a half
Potentially. If Kerr can run 63:44, I don't think it's completely unreasonable. I think eventually he will run sub 60, but if the race was run today, my money is on Kipchoge in the half
The best of Jakob and the best of Kipchoge right now, I think Jakob destroys him on the last lap or two of the 10000. The half marathon would probably go to EK, at least at the moment, but this might be tight. Peak EK in the 5000 from back in the day and peak Jakob would be a tough call. You figure with super shoes EK would be down at 12:40 if not under. That would have been a race worth watching. Peak Bekele of course would have beaten the Jakob of today, but let’s see how Jakob evolves. KB with dragonflys, likely runs 12:30.
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I'm kind of surprised this is a debate. Kipchoge likely could not beat the world's best right now in a half marathon. He just doesn't have the speed. We would expect him to beat Ingebrigsten in a 10k?
You have to remember Kipchoge relies on being able to ratchet down the pace after a long, grueling 18-20 miles in a marathon. He couldn't really do this in a 10K.
I know Ing hasn't really run the 10k, but I suspect he's going to be better at it than we realize. He relies on threshold training, and although is good in the mile/1500, he's got better endurance than speed. He will excel at the distance and is a contender for gold this year if he runs it.
I suspect the distance where kipchoge and Ing meet is like a 15k or a 10 mile
possible. or it might even be something like 15 miles. it's unknowable, but probable Jakob could be sub 59 in a half
You are assuming J I has no more 1500m aspirations. #1) J I has never raced sub-27 10000m, not even close. #2) J I is not racing sub-26:30 10000m while training as a 15000m/5000m athlete. #3) No male has been great 1500m to 10000m simultaneously, not Paavo Nurmi, not Said Aoutia, it's only theoretical with M Farah. M Farah never raced an important 1500m.
In Eliud’s track prime it could be Eliud winning but in 2023 Eliud could not get away from Jakob so Jakob wins with a faster finish just by following Eliud.
I think this is the answer. How hard/fast would Kipchoge have to hammer to drop a peak Jakob? Kipchoge can push the pace for 2 hours like nobody else on Earth but this is a 26-27 minute run, not two hours.
Jakob, and it wouldn't be close. I wouldn't back Kipchoge to run much quicker ran 27:30. He has the best engine in distance running, but he's no longer built for any sort of speed.
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Jakob, and it wouldn't be close. I wouldn't back Kipchoge to run much quicker ran 27:30. He has the best engine in distance running, but he's no longer built for any sort of speed.
Kipchoge has run 4:37 pace for 26.2 miles but you think he would struggle to run a 27:30 which is 4:25 a mile? Kipchoge is not the first strength runner that has competed in the marathon and the typical difference in 10000/marathon mile pace is 25 seconds. If Kipchoge could manage 20 seconds, he would be capable of about 26:40 if in marathon WR shape.
Potentially. If Kerr can run 63:44, I don't think it's completely unreasonable. I think eventually he will run sub 60, but if the race was run today, my money is on Kipchoge in the half
The best of Jakob and the best of Kipchoge right now, I think Jakob destroys him on the last lap or two of the 10000. The half marathon would probably go to EK, at least at the moment, but this might be tight. Peak EK in the 5000 from back in the day and peak Jakob would be a tough call. You figure with super shoes EK would be down at 12:40 if not under. That would have been a race worth watching. Peak Bekele of course would have beaten the Jakob of today, but let’s see how Jakob evolves. KB with dragonflys, likely runs 12:30.
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