Cole Hocker - Time To Worry?

John Wesley Harding wrote:

It seems like an odd time to start to worry, since his season effectively hasn’t even started yet. At the very least save it until after Millrose.

malmo wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

It seems like an odd time to start to worry, since his season effectively hasn’t even started yet. At the very least save it until after Millrose.

The season doesn't begin until after May 1.

Act like you've been there before.

Hot Takes wrote:

If Hocker isn't at least 3:53 then I think there's some concern. It's still a good time, but it shows he's not improving. If he's not 3:53 then it means he's 3:54 or slower. There are a lot of people coming up the ranks who are 3:54-3:56, if he can't separate himself from that crowd of people then his odds of making any world teams isn't great.

malmo wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

It seems like an odd time to start to worry, since his season effectively hasn’t even started yet. At the very least save it until after Millrose.

The season doesn't begin until after May 1.

Act like you've been there before.

Ruxton Towers XC wrote:

I guess I agree with all you guys. My brain knows you are right, but the feeling is still lingering that something is up.

a) if he runs "fast" but isn't really in the mix on the last lap, that would feel off for him (considering his kick).

b) if he wins but runs another "slow" time, that would be fine. But "fine" feels off for an athlete of his caliber. After Woody and Nuguse a few weeks ago, it looks like the rest of his peers are doing better than just fine.

Anyway, I hope he crushes it and does well and that 2023 looks a lot like 2021 for him.

king999 wrote:

Hot Takes wrote:

If Hocker isn't at least 3:53 then I think there's some concern. It's still a good time, but it shows he's not improving. If he's not 3:53 then it means he's 3:54 or slower. There are a lot of people coming up the ranks who are 3:54-3:56, if he can't separate himself from that crowd of people then his odds of making any world teams isn't great.

You want to know why Adidas is getting it's money's worth out of Kessler? They could care less if he wins s-i- right now. He has generated over 50 posts on one mostly negative thread..Hocker..8?

Jon Snow-man wrote:

king999 wrote:

You want to know why Adidas is getting it's money's worth out of Kessler? They could care less if he wins s-i- right now. He has generated over 50 posts on one mostly negative thread..Hocker..8?

Can you go a single thread without talking about Kessler? This has nothing to do with him or his adidas contract, keep it in the other threads.

And like Malmo said, there is nothing to worry about before the Spring season. How many times has Centro looked underwhelming in early season races before dominating at USAs. Hocker was putting together a solid season last year with multiple 3:50's, a 13:08, and a 5th place at Pre right next to Kipsang/Cheruiyot before his stress fracture. He won USAs and finished 6th at the Olympics as a 20 year old, he will be fine.

malmo wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

It seems like an odd time to start to worry, since his season effectively hasn’t even started yet. At the very least save it until after Millrose.

The season doesn't begin until after May 1.

Act like you've been there before.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

malmo wrote:

The season doesn't begin until after May 1.

Act like you've been there before.

I haven’t, though; I was a 1:56 guy in high school. There is this thing called the “indoor season,” and since I’m sure Hocker wants to perform well, if he falls well short of his expectations that could potentially be cause for some concern.

I’m not worried about him though.

shootpost wrote:

malmo wrote:

The season doesn't begin until after May 1.

Act like you've been there before.

This. Indoor does not matter (sorry).

I would be surprised if he raced seriously at all indoors.

This conversation can start July 9th.

Sub-elite pollster wrote:

shootpost wrote:

This. Indoor does not matter (sorry).

I would be surprised if he raced seriously at all indoors.

This conversation can start July 9th.

What a great sport we have, where we need to wait another 5 months to converse about it.

Guess I'll have to make do with threads about transgenderism and songs from the 1980s until then

shootpost wrote:

Sub-elite pollster wrote:

What a great sport we have, where we need to wait another 5 months to converse about it.

Guess I'll have to make do with threads about transgenderism and songs from the 1980s until then

I mean it sucks but yeah that is the nature sport.